Well Red Anders clearly recognised that his post was simply inflammatory and deleted it. I saw it in the daily subscription e-mail. It added nothing to the thread.
With your latest post, you reinforce that you still don't understand. nothing that I as a player ever "learn" will ever change this situation, because it is procedural. It's about the decision making in the code, and yes, it's about the RNG.
Have you an understanding of how to write code? do you understand the concept of a corner condition? and the bell curve, and the likelihood that a random choice will produce bad results at the edges, so you have to code special handling for these edges?
In the code, there is clearly some logic that decides to add new ships into a CZ after a period of time - and add more when the some are dead. And this code will add either reds or greens, of varying strengths and numbers. If this code makes the "right" decisions, then the battle rages on, is fun and enjoyable.
"it seems you are mostly like many frustrated that you didn't get a 'good' roll of that RNG"
What did I complain about in my OP? did I moan about the vouchers? the rebuy? the credits? No. I said "whoever thought that this was fun...". I play for fun. I want to enjoy the game. A 'good' roll is one that maintains the tension and threat, whilst not being ridiculous. If the combat becomes one sided green and there are only one or two targets, that get killed really quickly, I am "winning", right? and it's no fun. none at all. I don't want to always win. that is no fun.
Gorr gets my point. Merlin gets my point.
The truth is, I don't post here often. I have a low post count. and it's 100% because of folks like you and Red Anders there. some people build community and enjoyment... and some just chase people away. The game is fun, and could be better. The forums? I'll go back to lurking, rather than deal with this .
Apparently you are not getting my point, let me try to make it very clear since apparently you aren't able to understand it and continue to attack me and accuse me of something I am not doing which frankly is disturbing. And yes, I agree, I play games to be fun as well, however, as I repeatedly now have stated, "One of the main problems to me, was my mentality" I came in, having the idea that "fun" was only when things were going my way.
I've however learned differently, and now find many games too predictable because they rarely if ever challenge the player.
I'm also saying Elite is not perfect, you are completely skipping over the fact?
from my view you are saying "I hunted CZ for a good bit but then I suddenly died" you seemingly ignore the fact that yes, as agreed the game isn't perfect, and yes, as agreed improvements are needed, if the small instances where it doesn't fall out in your favour is angering you. And yes I understand code just fine, and yes as you say yourself.
and the likelihood that a random choice will produce bad results at the edges, so you have to code special handling for these edges?
Which is why I wrote, that 'bad' is part of the game, and that I needed a mentality adjustment from other games, where you never get a 'bad' outcome, it is almost always in your favour.
from your original post.
the real kicker... as I am running, there's the 'pop' of a couple more ships dropping into the zone... is it help? no, it's even more of the other faction...
Yet above that you wrote.
I get that this is simulating a space battle as it rages back and forth - but... and here's the but... it should rage BACK AND FORTH - not become a lop sided massacre over and over again.
Back and Forth at least in my mind, doesn't mean it is clean sailing and perfectly balanced 50/50 all the way, that's boring, it means it is wobbling back and forth, yes, like a seesaw. Meaning you cannot expect it to be perfectly predictable, ever.
You felt that on your ship, I've felt that on my ship, and that is part of the game, and it makes it a better game in my book.
So yeah, maybe, just maybe your point isn't coming across that well? maybe I'm reacting to what you write because that's all I can do?
and maybe you are throwing insults and prejudice against someone that is actually trying to help you enjoy the game more? but in return gets called arrogant and scaring people away? comparing me to something I am not, reading something into my posts that does not exist?
Lets make try for some clarity.
I don't know you, I see a person online, making this statement, I am going to give out some fairly standard advice initially, because many do make those mistakes, and I want to help guide them to enjoy the game more? how exactly would I know you and what you do with what little information you provide? how would I know your experience?
So yeah, I pointed out to:
only for the system to go into outbreak. so, yeah, thanks for that RNG.
That, that was caused by the background simulation, not RNG, actions caused that state to exist.
And then to
never mind, I continue grinding... and have been killed for the third time in a row as the result of a sky with no friendlies and a stupidly one sided dog pile that I couldn't escape from. all pips to shields/engines, trying to S/C as I get blown to bits by somewhere between 5-6 (first time) all the way up to 8 (last time) other ships...
that, I understand, and that what I did initially (again since I do not know your experience), I wasn't careful enough I didn't keep enough eye on other enemies and their groups, then my target. That things felt lopsided and often unfair, but that I learned differently.
To that you replied apparently because I do not know who you are, saying my response was an. "asinine, idiotic response." and instantly grouped me together with a 'group' you see as something Elite attracts that are full off themselves.
So yeah, I do not quite understand what you were expecting, "Yeah you are right this game sucks and is unbalanced as heck?" I understand your view just fine, and have now repeatedly stated that Elite is not perfect, I'm just saying that there is meaning to the game, and no it isn't perfect but there is meaning and part of it is that bad outcomes, bad situations, is something you can get into, which is something that very few games offer gamers of late, and that I had to adjust to that.
So...we cleared up? do you understand now that I was trying to help, and agreeing with you?
