Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[HAPPY_KILLMORE]

[I--] = 4 = Unknown Device = that big map thing that got activated

filled circle = objective complete
hollow circle = next objective

This is a set of instructions. FOR HUMANS TO FOLLOW.

I think this is a set of instructions describing what the probes do, the bottom hatched circle is a searched dimension and the top hatched circle is an unsearched dimension. The probe and UA check merope and the mystery system in each dimension and then the UL propagates (or links) them to the next dimension.

Alternatively the hatched circle is the thargoids home dimension (witchspace?) but that doesn't account for the filled/unfilled, circle. the flower v shapes are thargoid ships that assist in the operation.

But none of that is explains the 2 spiral armed galaxy that is in the structure.

 

[Xenia_K]

Is the 3rd column of the UP table important (and if it is - what is it?). Not done any UP searching before, apologies if dumb question:

https://uploadix.de/images/2016/09/08/optimizedorbits.jpg

... and of course a USS appears as I was typing - I paniced and dropped outside USS
... but when I started rescanning another appeared almost immediately

I was at RO-Q - 15.6mm from planet 7 at minimum speed 30km/s if that helps anyone o7

min speed (30Km/sec) is not the best way to do as spawn rate is VERY low - keep speed between 210 and 350 Km/sec - otherwise You may have a detection-blackout upto 3 minutes.
3rd column is distance to Merope, 5,6, 7 are the target Orbits in meters, Mm and Lsec

 

[Han_Zen]

Spoiler

[url]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4285/35567351105_baf9de5e54_o.png[/URL]

You get this from scanning the unknown device, they appear as a unknown signal source in your inbox, when you open it it plays an audio file and this is the spectrogram to comes from that.

Wooho. A beauty!

 

[Ozric]

I've added the UP ammonia planets list on the FP for ease of use

Posting the 'status of Large Wrecks' post for people coming online

Can I make a suggestion please? It doesn't say anywhere about needing a UA in your hold to open the doors to the structures, active or not. It may seem obvious to those who have been to any, but not to any newcomers. Could be worth adding a note to the summary post?

Also as I have heard various reports, can the UP open the doors, or is it just the UP?

 

[Suteksio]

The UA and the UL seem to "talk" to each other. Probably nothing, but it's interesting. The UL doesnt interact with the UP in any way though.

[video=youtube;2yHGMrIwtIs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yHGMrIwtIs[/video]

 

[Xenia_K]

So in the context of HIP 14909 3... Anywhere between the rings and planet?

nope
Orbit = distance (outer edge ring) + 0,00025 x (Distance SOI- Distance outer edge ring)

 

[HAPPY_KILLMORE]

[I--] = 4 = Unknown Device = that big map thing that got activated

filled circle = objective complete
hollow circle = next objective

This is a set of instructions. FOR HUMANS TO FOLLOW.

It is a set of instructions, but it may just be describing what the probes do. The hatched circles are dimensions the bottom being a searched dimension and the top unsearched. The UA & UP do whatever in the systems of merope and the mystery system and then jump to the next dimension via the UL.

But that doesn't explain the two spiral armed galaxy.

 

[Xenia_K]

What list?

see https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...onn/page1231?p=4478415&viewfull=1#post4478415

 

[JesusRocks1988]

nope
Orbit = distance (outer edge ring) + 0,00025 x (Distance SOI- Distance outer edge ring)

Oh, so I was waaaay too close then... So anywhere between when you get into its SOI and the outer edge of the rings. Might be worth another go.

 

[Momijisu]

As promised I've taken the time to properly map out the subsurface tunnels of the alien structure.

Much more detail, covers the breaks in the structure, location of each of the input pads, and all known interactables.

Structure contains a central ring around a main hall - where the map is located, there are multiple nodules on the floor which damage your hull if you drive into them.


Branching from the central ring are several rooms which have dispensers for the Unknown Links. As well as the doors to exit.


The central room contains a large structure, which some have suggested - when viewed upside down, like some kind of creature - there are luminescent parts to this structure. Around the ceiling are several egglike structures. There are 3 'bubbles' which you can put UL/UP/UAs into - these can be activated by driving onto a pad - which lights when you get near, and slowly driving up the ramp towards the illuminated bubble. There is a specific combination which works - completing this and then scanning again will activate the map.


There are also nodes which you can scan at the bend of each 'door' corridor. As well as one in the central room.


The central room is around the same height as the outer ring, however the branching UL rooms curve down below the ring, where the exit corridors branch off and curve upwards.


The whole structure appears to be under the ground.

http://imgur.com/a/Hvth2

Album of the structure above, in it's inactive state.

 

[SillyNickname]

2 waves = the base distance = the "U"
3 waves = 1.5 x U

Can you locate a system that is 3U/2 LY from the three base systems (COL 70, Merope, HIP 14909)?

That's what I posted - with very little wiggle room - the 2/3, 3/2 rule almost applies to LY Aurigae and Swoilz FA-A b59-0. Their average distances to the 3 "base" systems are, respectively, 1496.74ly and 2245.19ly.

The second pair Synuefe TV-X b20-0 and Synuefe BU-X b47-4 needed a little more wiggle room to fit in the proximity of 2/3, 3/2 rule. Their average distance to the base systems are, respectively, 454.86ly and 684.07ly.

 

[Factabulous]

Oh, so I was waaaay too close then... So anywhere between when you get into its SOI and the outer edge of the rings. Might be worth another go.

Please don't: the person who though they had found one did not https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...0-The-Canonn?p=5659514&viewfull=1#post5659514

and that planet is outside the expected area for UP : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...es-Thread-10-The-Canonn?p=5659477#post5659477

Grrr - wish the camera worked so I could see where I was ejecting these things - spent the last 10 minutes trying to get the Unknown Link into place

 

[CMDR Ofan]

Please don't: the person who though they had found one did not https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...0-The-Canonn?p=5659514&viewfull=1#post5659514

and that planet is outside the expected area for UP : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...es-Thread-10-The-Canonn?p=5659477#post5659477

Grrr - wish the camera worked so I could see where I was ejecting these things - spent the last 10 minutes trying to get the Unknown Link into place

Works for me every time if you just reverse fully into the little bay

 

[woodhouse]

So any thoughts about the star map shown by the Unknown Device? Is it another galaxy? Is it a subset of our own galaxy?

 

[KineticImpulser]

That's what I posted - with very little wiggle room - the 2/3, 3/2 rule almost applies to LY Aurigae and Swoilz FA-A b59-0. Their average distances to the 3 "base" systems are, respectively, 1496.74ly and 2245.19ly.

The second pair Synuefe TV-X b20-0 and Synuefe BU-X b47-4 needed a little more wiggle room to fit in the proximity of 2/3, 3/2 rule. Their average distance to the base systems are, respectively, 454.86ly and 684.07ly.

Are you using 871.02 LY = U ? That would make 1306.53 LY = 1.5U

 

[Factabulous]

Works for me every time if you just reverse fully into the little bay

Yes, finally done it (the first two happened first time, so I didn't know what I had done). As you say - reverse into the bay with the green light as far as you can - you can see a chute in the rear camera. Still think it would be nice to be able to look where you are pooping

 

[LordZoltan]

UL plus UP?

No I think slarty was a little bit out, here, and that was a few pages ago!

I think we're reasonably confident that:

UA (- - |) + UL (- | -) = UP (- | |)

If we see it as binary then it's just 1+2=3, or:

1 | 2 = 3.

And for some reason I can't help thinking, if we do it in binary, this also mean UP ^ (xor) UA = UL (or... ULs contain stuff that UAs and UPs have, but which they don't share). But that's just idle daydreaming on my part

I also like the idea that the leading '-' is just to make 3 bits = octal. Of course, however, with the various new unknown cargos, we might have 8 unknown things and that might be interesting

 

[Factabulous]

min speed (30Km/sec) is not the best way to do as spawn rate is VERY low - keep speed between 210 and 350 Km/sec - otherwise You may have a detection-blackout upto 3 minutes.
3rd column is distance to Merope, 5,6, 7 are the target Orbits in meters, Mm and Lsec

Can I make a suggestion please? It doesn't say anywhere about needing a UA in your hold to open the doors to the structures, active or not. It may seem obvious to those who have been to any, but not to any newcomers. Could be worth adding a note to the summary post?

Also as I have heard various reports, can the UP open the doors, or is it just the UP?

Thanks both - post updated. Not sure if you need UA or UP to open doors, so I left it as both (as you need them inside anyway). Can update if we find one is enough [up]

 

[LordZoltan]

Well, I count 1x UL, 1x UP, 1x UA and 1x something still unknown (I--). There's a theory on FP that I-- and --I are just distance markings, but this seems to be wrong in the light of the new map, as it uses the --I code as well. The code itself could be either binary or octal. AFAIK octal is what the UP used internally. In binary, I-- would mean '4'.

I'm convinced the diagram could help us to find the "right hand" system that the UP were obviously tasked with, but I can't figure out how. The symbols on both maps are the same. Note the hollow dot in the centre of the circle, it seems to be the same as the top one in the new spectrogram (the Thargoid plane, station, whatever), whereas the bottom circle seems to be filled (hard to make out, though). I can't make anything of the lines and angles, but they seem to point somewhere. And so on.

Just too tired right now,
[noob]

There's a bit of a caveat here, too, when interpreting the UP spectrogram: the bottom left and right symbols (| - - and - - |) are not actually made of the same symbols, or at least they don't have the same spacing, as the top left/right symbols which we are attributing to the UP and UL - so there's a question mark over whether they are intended to mean the same thing.

 

[Nagual]

There's a bit of a caveat here, too, when interpreting the UP spectrogram: the bottom left and right symbols (| - - and - - |) are not actually made of the same symbols, or at least they don't have the same spacing, as the top left/right symbols which we are attributing to the UP and UL - so there's a question mark over whether they are intended to mean the same thing.

Question everything, especially when you think you know the answer