Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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If the Flowerships are Thargons, it *could mean they're drones.

That may explain the V symbol in the new spectrograph image being present in the diagrams of probes and the flower ships - denoting they're all unmanned (or manned by AI).

Clearly, the "V" indicates a Vogon constructor fleet preparing to build a hyperspace bypass through the human occupied bubble. The plans have been on display in Alpha Centuari for the last 6 months!
 
Clearly, the "V" indicates a Vogon constructor fleet preparing to build a hyperspace bypass through the human occupied bubble. The plans have been on display in Alpha Centuari for the last 6 months!

As log as it's not in the basement, in a locked filing cabinet with a sign on the door saying "beware of the Leopard" :)
 
Dear Lord this thread is moving too fast to keep up! I take half a day away and I now have 120 pages to catch up on???!!?!! Ouch!
 
So am I right in thinking in the spectrogram:

The UA points at Merope (matches the system in the image)
The UP leads to another system (can't remember which) which presumably matches that system map.
The UL leads to another UL site (which is why the bottom and top images are the same)
 
Because I think the circle/orb with grids is the SAME body... they sent out the UA/UP/UL items and the picture show them sending the data scans back to the origin. I don't think it is A to B, it is A to A, out and back like a satellite bounce.

I agree. I think it's the same planet. This is what I said two days ago...


Having looked at this image, and having read other's take on it, here's my theory, which is similar to what I've been reading:

The picture represents the 3 stages of exploration of the galaxy.

1) One probe type is responsible for body discovery - the ADS if you like

2) Another probe is responsible for Detailed Surface Scanning - the DSS

3) The 3rd probe is responsible for sending that data back

The top and bottom circles with the seeming LAT/LON lines, represent the same planet - i.e. judging by the depiction of the flowerships - the Thargoid's home planet.

So overall, the picture tells the story of 1) Sending the three probes out, 2) and recieving the data back from the probes.

We explorers do similar, except we send ourselves out in our ships, and we follow more or less the exact same sequence...

1) ADS honk
2) DSS
3) "Send" the data to Universal Cartographics (by selling them the data)

I think that's all this is - just a depiction of galaxy exploration.

Now, there is that additional centre point on the top and bottom planets - either that means it's just a representation of the probes being sent out and data coming back to the Thargoid home world, or it could be saying the probes are being sent out from these newly-discovered big bases, and the data is being returned to those bases - and from this data you get the resultant Thargoid version of a galaxy map.

My 2-pence worth, but I think it's as simple as that - the equivalent of our Voyager gold disks - design 'em to make it as simple as we think we can make it to help an alien intelligence understand what's on the disk.

I have my doubts that anything on that spectrograph represents pointers to somewhere in the galaxy. Maybe I'm wrong though - time will tell ;)
 
I was kind of hoping the new audio would point to couple of new places. No such luck it seems.

I went the math-way this time and actually trilaterated the coordinates. This ends up being a triple-sphere intersection, which given the three sets of coordinates, will intersect in two points, thus two different results for each line - only one of which should be correct.

Below are the results for the signal in Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-31:

Code:
         Merope, d2-31, Col70
             v      v     v
Decoded: [0.151, 0.01, 0.937]
(x, y, z) = [ -59.45141311 -273.82211586 -379.35331368]  
(x, y, z) = [ -57.5989928  -274.87252657 -374.74794964]  // Mel 22 NX-U d2-27 is [ -57.1, -274.7, -373.7 ]


Decoded: [0.157, 0.025, 0.96]
(x, y, z) = [ -82.16964174 -280.6184037  -379.62695752]
(x, y, z) = [ -75.10696397 -284.62327902 -362.06819834]  // Mel 22 ZU-P c5-1 is [ -75.4, -284.5, -361.8 ]


Decoded: [0.128, 0.031, 0.974]
(x, y, z) = [ -83.37090729 -259.78159006 -357.04804299]  // HIP 14909 is [ -84.4, -259.3, -358.7 ]
(x, y, z) = [ -87.80253706 -257.2686445  -368.06566584]

The sphere geometry makes the results a bit funky, but even the -357.0 vs -358.7 of HIP 14909 is within error margins.
 
I agree with previous poster that it would be helpful to have a spreadsheet to track the audio sources, and resulting octal / coordinates.

On the mention of whether this is a "race" I think it's important to point out that without the excellent collaboration that has been occurring here, nobody would have ever found anything. The different skills and thought processes involved don't tend to exist in single human brains. It's awesome to see the community working together.


Spreadsheet is live!

The spreadsheet is public so anyone can edit it. I'm afraid information goes too fast to manage all the required changes on my own :D.
 

I think this theory is brilliant, based on evidence, and should definitely be considered.

It would mean we are not searching for their home world in the first place. Possibly, there is no home world anymore at all. If I understand Nutter right, these motherships are remnants from the first Thargoid war where humanity didn't face their main force. That one was hit by the Mycoid virus and spiralled into the ground where it stayed until now. The scavengers are currently repairing the wrecked motherships with Meta-Alloys until they're ready to rise again. That would explain the barnacle "refuels", for example. It furthermore would explain the "green goo" corrosion visible on the hull and the Scavenger's behavior, in fact, their very presence at the sites at all. Meanwhile, Thargons bringing MAs from the barnacles to the crash sites for repair and so on. It would also explain why the wrecks seem to be so old and why all of them seem to have crashed at roughly the same time.

Leaves the question how they plan to lift up again, as I see it, they're buried flat on their face. Luckily, the main force was stopped in the Pleiades, so the bubble is safe. For now :)

Yo, O7,
[noob]
 
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I am looking forward to these Thargoid motherships being fully repaired and watching the animation of their lift-off out of the several hundred year old dust. I am not looking forward to meeting them in space though... I like the symmetry of this story - AI weapons of war discarded, outliving their creators - ever searching to murder their creators that are long gone. Flying dutchmen malevolent ghost ships. We're just a bump in the road on the way to their programmed mission.
 
I think this theory is brilliant, based on evidence, and should definitely be considered.

It would mean we are not searching for their home world in the first place. Possibly, there is no home world anymore at all. If I understand Nutter right, these motherships are remnants from the first Thargoid war where humanity didn't face their main force. That one was hit by the Mycoid virus and spiralled into the ground where it stayed until now. The scavengers are currently repairing the wrecked motherships with Meta-Alloys until they're ready to rise again. That would explain the barnacle "refuels", for example. It furthermore would explain the "green goo" corrosion visible on the hull and the Scavenger's behavior, in fact, their very presence at the sites. Meanwhile, Thargons bringing MAs from the barnacles to the crash sites for repair and so on. It would furthermore explain why the wrecks seem to be so old.

Leaves the question how they plan to lift up again, as I see it, they're buried flat on their face. Luckily, the main force was stopped in the Pleiades, so the bubble is safe. For now :)

Yo, O7,
[noob]

From what the lore says, Mycoid only impacted their Hyperdrive and Exoskeleton, it never said it hit the engines and sent them plummeting onto a planet.

Source:
They had been infected by a virus and a particular type of virus at that. It was known as the ‘Mycoid’ virus, and it was produced by humans. The Thargoid hyperdrive technology was rendered useless (the virus attacked plastic polymers in the system) and there are indications that the Thargoids were also impacted, as their exoskeletons were composed of polymer like material.

https://www.drewwagar.com/lore/elite-dangerous-lore-the-thargoids/
 
Someone had mentioned that perhaps the map is of a dwarf galaxy. Personally I think it looks like andromeda, BUT there IS a dwarf galaxy in the game already. It's just that they are outside the map and you can't select them. They're the PSR system. Type it in the search box and it'll take you there but the stars disappear.

That was me. Other meant it could show a certain star type only but iwthin our galaxa, but this would mean these kind of stars would arrange in such regular way, and this is definitely not the case (in our galaxy at least but I guess in any other, too).

EDIT: thread grew for about 40 pages when I left work for home :p , great work @ all ! For any case I'll head to Merope 5C to check out barnacle with these new artifacts onboard. Will post here should I discover something.
 
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I was kind of hoping the new audio would point to couple of new places. No such luck it seems.
I went the math-way this time and actually trilaterated the coordinates. This ends up being a triple-sphere intersection, which given the three sets of coordinates, will intersect in two points, thus two different results for each line - only one of which should be correct.
Below are the results for the signal in Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-31:
Thanks Wace ! Great work you have done 07
So now we need recordings from 6 and 7 site ? Anyone already doing that or i should go ?
 
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