Attempt to sabotage our game

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It doesnt...thats why one is not overly concerned what they do. The more salt generated on the forums, the more the case is pushed fer an open pve mode because open play has become so undesirable to too many players. And lets face it, its harder to get players out of solo and pg than it is to force them into it which will ultimately mean that ps4 players will be on these very forums in 6 months time complaining about open being empty all the time. At which point we can all point to incidents like this and tell them its their own fault which means that FD eventually get the blame, as those with much less maturity will never accept the blame themselves.

Really, why would any solo player care at this point? Those of us who play in such ways have little interest in the goings on in open...nothing that happens there affect us in any shape or form so until someone gives me a damned good reason as to why I should care, Ill continue to play in solo while laughing at the childish little games being played in open.

And this does sorta indirectly affect me because my daughter is a ps4 player ^

In the end, it wont be solo and pg players who will suffer the consequences of the antics of open play so again, why should we be in any way concerned about what happens in a different mode? If anything, the griefers get my blessing because the more salt they dish out, the less time we wait until the aforementioned consequences become a reality...so knock yerselves right out lads...really ^

Funny that it's those who don't play in open are the ones who complain the most about it.
 
Actually, it's just a game. No really, it is.

I put it in quotes for a reason. Being just a game is not a valid excuse for lack of sufficient continuity, agency, and dignity, in my opinion. If you don't want to care about the quality of the game you play, that's your choice, of course. :p
 
'Attempt to sabotage our game'

Thats the problem right there, it's NOT!

The game belongs to anyone who pays money for it and their right to play any way they see fit within the product description!
 
Some may be turned away, others may turn to solo but all will receive an honest look at the game and what you can encounter in Open. Sounds pretty good.
so making players quit and possibly demand their money back, perhaps with consumer protection authorities and threat of legal action (on the basis FD make no attempt to market a game which is actually playable by SANCTIONING those anti social failures who indulge in player ganking thus making the game effectively unplayable to new players) is good? action which left unchecked could kill the game entirely (because FD will willingly kill it to save themselves and we all know americans sic lawyers and class action suits at the drop of a feather), is great. too bad if it kills the game you wont be able to play it either but hey it was still great right? :D
 

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Funny that it's those who don't play in open are the ones who complain the most about it.

Ye mean like the Op? Ah no wait that was a low blow perhaps...ye see me complaining? By all means, highlight the complaint Im making. Im a solo player literally giving my blessing to them...as in literally not caring ^
 
Gankers have a strategy?
And I thought their goal was to ruin the game experience for any and all they can in some strange quest to "punish FD" for not giving them everything they want right now. I'm sure there are some mommy & daddy issues also but let's not belabor this.

It doesnt...thats why one is not overly concerned what they do. ...

Okay with what you're both saying I'm going to assume that all of those many words on the original post can be boiled down into just the one sentence, and check with you to see if I have retained its meaning...

Gankers are going to target new PS4 players and so could any experienced players who have picked up PS4 accounts please help them by attacking those gankers?
 
The original post is doing my head in. I am just not understanding it.

There are hordes of gankers who hate players going into Solo. They are going to target new PS4 player who are likely to then stick to Solo to avoid them.

How does this strategy help the goal of the gankers?

Yea these gankers as you call them do get rather upset because they don't have someone to kill.

Well, according to Drew, ganking is primarily an RP choice and not meta griefing, apparently, so... yeah. Keep in mind that it is "just a game" to some people, therefor it can be held to a lower standard of continuity, agency, and dignity as our Commanders are all just pawns at the disposal of the arbitrary greater story that we should count ourselves fortunate to be victims of. Well, sorry, that isn't the game I play – I haven't lost a ship since 3301.


While Drew is intitled to his opinion, as we are all, but I do not see the Role Play connection. Have they declared their allegiance to the opposite side? Or are they just an unorganized gang?

I can tell in the mirror if the underpants on my head are the same ones from yesterday. ;)

Malc, at times like this I am glad we do not do video conferencing ..... LOL

Funny that it's those who don't play in open are the ones who complain the most about it.

Perhaps those in solo/private groups wish to play in Open but do not feel compelled simply because of those who do this.

So wait, these guys are going to go and buy PS4s and a copy of the game just to troll a fresh batch of greenhorns?

Some of them just may but some may already have a PS4 so they just buy the game. I do not know how dedicated these players are at what they do.



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The players that go around murdering newbies for lolz (and not other reason) do sour the experience. I'm really looking forward to the new C&P changes. Hopefully that'll help us police the systems better.

Most of the time, I don't care what they're up to, they can't kill me, because I know how to run away. If I don't fancy dealing with them, be it not being in the mood, not having the time to evade them, or simply trying to save money, I just stick to Solo or Mobius.
 
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While Drew is intitled to his opinion, as we are all, but I do not see the Role Play connection. Have they declared their allegiance to the opposite side? Or are they just an unorganized gang?

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I can't speak for Drew, of course, but based on his comments during a Q&A with ObsidianAnt, it didn't seem like those were relevant factors, in his opinion. Too me it seemed as though he was looking at the player base as a whole through rather rose tinted glasses.

Don't get me wrong. I'm fine with players playing however they see fit so long as it is within the rules and guidelines of the game. That doesn't mean that some players don't get off on being griefers though.

Anyway, here's the video, if you're interested. Well worth a listen when you have the free time, in my opinion.

[video=youtube_share;LAEbzCtKs9U]https://youtu.be/LAEbzCtKs9U[/video]
 
so making players quit and possibly demand their money back, perhaps with consumer protection authorities and threat of legal action (on the basis FD make no attempt to market a game which is actually playable by SANCTIONING those anti social failures who indulge in player ganking thus making the game effectively unplayable to new players) is good? action which left unchecked could kill the game entirely (because FD will willingly kill it to save themselves and we all know americans sic lawyers and class action suits at the drop of a feather), is great. too bad if it kills the game you wont be able to play it either but hey it was still great right? :D

Do you even know what you are talking about?

So, people being terrorists in a video game?

Pretty pathetic to be honest.

But hey, Man babies gotta man baby.

How is it pathetic that some PVP players are pushing the BGS in their own way? by the same token anyone who pushes the BGS to affect others is pathetic...
 
I put it in quotes for a reason. Being just a game is not a valid excuse for lack of sufficient continuity, agency, and dignity, in my opinion. If you don't want to care about the quality of the game you play, that's your choice, of course. :p

I'd agree that there are some issues around the degree of player agency in the game, although even that is within itself consistent with the overall concept of the game as one in which you're essentially living a relatively insignificant life within a huge game universe. By 'relatively insignificant' what I mean is that although (for example) I hold the Imperial rank of Maquis, what does it mean in the grand scheme of things? I'm one of likely at least a few thousand with that rank, amongst the hundreds of millions of citizens of one of the 20,000 systems in the human bubble. Even if you hold the rank of king, you're not actually the king, you're basically King Crap of Turd mountain.

I'm not really sure specifically what you're thinking of in terms of continuity. We had the overarching lore reboot which said all lore outside of this game (i.e. from the previous three games) shouldn't be considered to be canon but it's pretty clear even that didn't actually mean it was all going to be thrown out of the window, more that they didn't want to be constrained to sticking to the minutae of the detail in some areas. If you mean your own internal consistency in terms of how you approach the game, that comes from you and not from the game. Regardless of what the game (any game I mean) provides, some players will approach it from a perspective of only acting in a way which is logical within the context of their character's world view whilst others simply don't need to engage in that level of roleplay consistency to have an enjoyable experience.

As for 'dignity' I just don't know how you're factoring that in at all or what you were thinking about specifically when you typed it.

It's a false equivalence to suggest that regardless of what my opinion about the above topics may be, that I don't want to care about the quality of the game though. Which you know anyway, hence the :p lol. Quality is such a subjective concept when applying it to the experience of playing a game because there are aspects of all of the above and many more things which will be of critical importance to one player in feeling they are having a quality experience, whilst another player will find those aspects irrelevant when making their own judgement.

I don't actually think we're arguing here. (I tend to think that if you're not sure whether you're arguing with someone you probably aren't :D)
 
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How is it pathetic that some PVP players are pushing the BGS in their own way? by the same token anyone who pushes the BGS to affect others is pathetic...

Now I know what you've been up to playing in Solo for the last week.
 

I enjoy playing the game as a survivalist and more or less as myself if I were a Commander in the Pilots Federation in the 34th century. From what I gather, this is generally rather different than how other players tend to approach the game. To me, those qualities and factors of the game I mentioned are important for my own reasons, which I won't bother going into more detail about here, both because it's a bit off topic, and because I'm feeling a little lazy – I pulled an all-nighter last night and am overdue for my nap.

Anyway, yes, I think we're likely more or less on the same page here, if perhaps interpreting the context of the woods on the page a little differently than each other. [up]
 
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