I mean like a min-Asp or maxi-Diamondback. Same internals & flight specs etc as the Cobra MkIV (I mean identical in every functional way except looks).
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I mean like a min-Asp or maxi-Diamondback. Same internals & flight specs etc as the Cobra MkIV (I mean identical in every functional way except looks).
Damn Motti, you were right on! I've just received a phone call from Cambridge, they removed my Invisibility Function for a week as a warning.
OK, so it's meh, nothing to see here, move along people...
What with this thread and the LEP scare-story thread, the staff at F D must be shaking their heads in disbelief.
So if you were to buy the game way before release date and say get given the Sol Permit and Founders Permit as an exclusive item (because you were a Founder), THEN pre order the lifetime pass that too has an exclusive item, and then FD decide to say, NAHHHH, every Tom, and Harry can have the lot, you wouldn't be slightly disappointed? After all, this is the very reason why people buy pre orders to get that 1 little bit of exclusivity. Makes me wish I really did pre order that Sesto Elemento now
I do get where you guys are coming from, the whole 'a deal's a deal' argument is a very strong one that I can definitely understand, so I'm certainly not suggesting that you dont have a voice. All I'm saying is that FD will likely weigh up both sides of the argument before making a decision and that decision might even change depending how much time has passed or whether they really think they made a mistake or not. Forever is a long time so I still have vague hopes of eventually being able to photograph my shiny new MK IV a few times against the backdrop of a ringed gas giant before putting it away in some dark hangar forever.
Like I said, I can certainly see your argument. To answer your question, I would be ok with what you propose, but only if they compensated me in some way that I felt was adequate. I would take into consideration whether they thought they were correcting a mistake on their part that would ultimately make the game better for all players. If I thought they were just doing it for the lol's or as a cash grab I probably wouldn't be very happy.
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At this time the Cobra Mk. IV is not intended to be made available for additional customers outside of those who already qualify according to this criteria.
If the status of this Horizons early-purchase incentive ship ever changes we'll be certain to announce via the usual community channels.
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Old argument, here was the actual FD answer.
This is not the Cobra Mk IV you're looking for... *jedihandwavium*
It was and is an early adopters reward, nothing more to say about that.
It was and is an early adopters reward, nothing more to say about that.
I do get where you guys are coming from, the whole 'a deal's a deal' argument is a very strong one that I can definitely understand, so I'm certainly not suggesting that you dont have a voice. All I'm saying is that FD will likely weigh up both sides of the argument before making a decision and that decision might even change depending how much time has passed or whether they really agree they made a mistake or not. Forever is a long time so I still have vague hopes of eventually being able to photograph my shiny new MK IV a few times against the backdrop of a ringed gas giant before putting it away in some dark hangar forever.
Like I said, I can certainly see your argument. To answer your question, I would be ok with what you propose, but only if they compensated me in some way that I felt was adequate. I would take into consideration whether they thought they were correcting a mistake on their part that would ultimately make the game better for all players. If I thought they were just doing it for the lol's I probably wouldn't be very happy.
I too can see where you are coming from, and yes if we were to be compensated with something that would seem adequate then that would be fine. I propose that we get the Vulture Mark II, faster, more manoeuvrable, 2 more hardpoints (mediums), twice the jumprange, and the same shield strength. Or.........................a mega fast fighter (faster than the fastest RNG'd fighter you can get) with no shields, 1 huge and 2 medium hardpoints, average jump range, supreme manoeuvrability. Yes, that will do...for now.
Meanwhile nobody else has had the opportunity to do the same thing as you and make said purchase. Hiding content behind a time gate seems to be the only thing FDEV does on a regular basis. However this time gate is the fact that if you were not here at the exact right second to make a purchase, then you didnt get access to the entire game.
Thats anti consumer anti business business practice at best. That is some Destiny level Console gaming crap that is ruining gaming as an industry. Season passes just to access data that is already taking up room on your system. I dont like being nickel and dimed to death for items I more than paid for 10 times over with their current micro transaction model for cosmetics.
I am willing to pay 12 bucks for a ship kit because I expect that I will see that in game return. Better content and whatnot. But I can tell you with a 100% guarantee that once that ship kit was bought less than 20 times, then the entire process of creating it was paid for. The many hundreds or thousands of times it was paid for after that are 100% profit. The cost of these cosmetic items have always been overpriced in comparison especially when there is no way to earn anything like it in the game itself. Its pure profit.
I am sure the PS players have spent a decent amount of money on the store already. Considering the fact that if they buy all the ship kits it puts the measly amount you were able to purchase the access to the MKIV to shame.($204 USD point in fact) Not to mention what they paid for is more lucrative and assisted in the games continued development compared to your well timed purchase. Your purchase got you game content and cost them money to produce. Cosmetics cost almost nothing to produce and makes nothing but profit. So dont play the they owe me card, because they dont owe you anything.
I think it would be a bad idea for FD to do that.
By doing so they would:
- lose their credibility.
- lose the option to ever sell pre-release or specials deals as everybody would just wait until they make it available for everybody.
- have to deal with a few very angry customers for breaking a contract.
- probably a bit of bad press.
All this just to make a few customers happy?
No, I do understand all of that mate, really. The only bit I didn't understand was why the guy I was discussing it with seemingly didn't care about his early access exclusivity having already been breached during the period from Horizon's actual non-beta release on 15 December 2015 until 5th Feb 2016.
You, I and everybody else knows that it was never in reality a beta (regardless of the fail that happened on the steam store) after 15 December 2015. I bought my Horizons pre-order from FDev's store not steam and it sure as hell wasn't stated to be a beta on there after 15 December, nor was it stated to be a beta on here when it was released on that date. Chuck in Braben's statement and it's as clear as day that the cutoff date for access to the ship was supposed to be 15 December 2015 - we all bought the update before that date and we all did so on the understanding that 15 December was the cutoff date for getting access to the Cobra Mk4 because 15 December was the (non-beta) release date.
The period between 15 December 2015 and 5th Feb 2016 became relevant because of some failfest on the steam store where the update was shown as being in beta when it actually wasn't.
Literally the only thing I was asking him was if the exclusivity is such a big deal to him (it's the exclusivity that is being held up as the reason the ship should never go back on sale) then why wasn't he raging buttmad about it already having been breached. Just that, nothing else.
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Yep.
I wanted that chrome Vulture but didn't want to pay $14 for it and thought I'd be around for a discount later. Then it was gone forever. FDev could make a lot of money bringing it back, but this is how timed exclusive offers should work. You snooze, you may lose.
Completionists arriving late to ED are going to have to hold about 30 different L's. wireframe skins, chrome skins, golden skins, Cobra 4, etc.
Well the idea was that the compensation would be sufficiently large to make the current owners of the MK IV happy enough to not cause the outcomes you listed. That and the fact that FD would be seen as correcting what many people view as a mistaken business decision and therefore people might go easy on them out of sympathy as long as the compensation was good enough. But yeah no matter how much store credit they offered I can see there would always be some who would remain adamantly opposed no matter what. That's the way the world works.
To avoid confusion. Sole Hunter's quote was something I posted, and I'm not "the guy" you spent pages nitpicking dates and newsletter/forum posts with Red.
I wasn't confused until I read your post lol.
Sole Hunter's post says I didn't understand something - it doesn't matter who he was saying it to, I was just clarifying that I did understand the thing he thought I didn't. I also know you're not the player that I had a lengthy discussion with about this during the weekend, nor did I suggest that you were, I just explained what I was asking 'that guy', who we both agree wasn't you.
I'd decided to leave this thread well alone, I only bothered posting because putting it bluntly I'm frakking sick of being told what I do and don't understand by people who then proceed to post something that does't contradict a single thing I'd said.
I suspect everybody will agree I had the right idea by leaving it alone though, so I'm going to take my own advice. For clarity I really don't give a flying one what they do or don't do with the Cobra Mk4.
Just a few thoughts listed in green in the quote - not aimed at anyone, free for all to comment on.
I personally don't mind either way. I was taught to share my toys as a child, so others getting what I have as an adult doesn't bother me
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