Another to add the references of where they indicated that space legs will be a thing
http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=1824c0b05a#Lifetime Exp
Speculation about Elite Feet / Space Legs
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Another to add the references of where they indicated that space legs will be a thing
http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=1824c0b05a#Lifetime Exp
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Great post. Agreed.
for petes sake, i never said it won't be a thing.
I'm saying it's not THE thing, and that there's a whole lot of other stuff that should (and seemingly will) come first before they even think about implementing space legs.
I'm really surprised about how many people seem to be eagerly anticipating or even suggesting things like having to walk to a bar or common room of some kind to get missions rather than just pulling them from a mission board like now, strolling around their ships playing housey and admiring their Cobra Mk3 duvet covers (£2) and custom wood-panelled toilet (pre-order bonus for season 3, not available for Mac users) etc.
None of this is gameplay, it is 'looking at things'. In addition to that, walking around to acquire missions is literally just injecting tedium; it's the kind of feature that every single game that has ever featured it either ends up adding a bypass key for, or leaves me wanting to punch my screen through after I spend the same 30 seconds doing the same thing yet again before I can do the actual thing I want to do.
This is one area of the game where if it is introduced at all, it needs significant meaningful gameplay content available from day one to justify the time that would be needed to develop it.
Now look at multi-pew.
Yeah.
None of this is gameplay, it is 'looking at things'. In addition to that, walking around to acquire missions is literally just injecting tedium; it's the kind of feature that every single game that has ever featured it either ends up adding a bypass key for, or leaves me wanting to punch my screen through after I spend the same 30 seconds doing the same thing yet again before I can do the actual thing I want to do.
This is one area of the game where if it is introduced at all, it needs significant meaningful gameplay content available from day one to justify the time that would be needed to develop it.
Now look at multi-pew.
Yeah.
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I think I've read not many people used the ship bridges/interiors in Star Trek Online either.
But I dunno. I really liked knowing they were there.
But I dunno. I really liked knowing they were there.
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And looking at the order of the things in this list:
The first one is already done, and the second is space legs... so maybe 3.0... one can always hope.
See, something like this could work if we were having early design discussions for an unreleased space exploration game.
But ED has been around for 2 1/2 years now, and there's a lot of other mechanics that would have to come into play in your scenario.
So you're sipping tea staring out the window in your ships lounge. When suddenly the ship alarms go off.
You drop your cup and start sprinting towards the deck. *Stop, wait for door to open, continue sprinting*
You round the next corner and get get slammed into the wall and fall as you hear the loud boom of an interdiction drop.
You get up and continue sprinting to the main deck. As you stop for the deck door to open you hear your ships computer "Shields offline."
You finally get in and sprint to your chair and sit *wait for sitting animation to complete*
Finally you get your hands on the controls, look down, and see 23% hull. You hit boost, but are greeted with a "thrusters offline" message, and a few seconds later "eject, eject, eject".
Followed by the lovely rebuy screen.
Now the first time this happens, it would be awesomely intense, and worth the rebuy.
The second time would be a little frustrating.
The third time would be worthy of menu-logging.
After which you'd probably decided you're better off manning the helm than sipping tea in the lounge. Speaking of that, how long before passively staring out the window gets old?
My point is, FD has built a whole bunch of combat into elite, and even more is coming in the form of some supposedly nasty aliens. You can try and have a nice calm exploration experience, but unless you're well away from the bubbles and known alien locations, then, well, you can't have it.
This is precisely why I want a deep-dive on exploration mechanics and content. Make it enjoyable and compelling to stay out in the black for extended times.
Once they've done that (and some other core elements), then sure, add walking around the ship so you can stare out the window in your lounge... if that's your thing.
Ok this is how I hope it works.
What's in place currently works keep it.Next space legs. Walk around ship walk around space station local offices for the same stuff we get currently while docked. Next extra good missions from ( Bar, Office,and CMDR'S yes missions from other players). Now that aside if Frontier can I would like to buy a Condo with Credits at a space Port that other CMDR'S can stop over.
Ok mission from players could work like this. Mission Giver opens a escrow account for said Mission let's say 1mil next CMDR wants that mission puts up let's say 100,000 to except.
What's in place currently works keep it.Next space legs. Walk around ship walk around space station local offices for the same stuff we get currently while docked. Next extra good missions from ( Bar, Office,and CMDR'S yes missions from other players). Now that aside if Frontier can I would like to buy a Condo with Credits at a space Port that other CMDR'S can stop over.
Ok mission from players could work like this. Mission Giver opens a escrow account for said Mission let's say 1mil next CMDR wants that mission puts up let's say 100,000 to except.
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This sounds like even more work than multi-crew, than for less gameplay merit than multi-crew... And that's saying something!
Actually, ED presents itself quite well to be a "looking at things" as being the game play. Exploration is mostly jumping around... and looking at things. I like doing that. I did the ruins mission simply because I liked driving around in the ruins.
When I played Mass Effect 1 many years ago, I would spend quite some time just walking and looking around in the Citadel. Some players (maybe not many) are like me. We like the idea of just going to our quarters in the ship and look out the window. Probably won't spend hours and hours doing it, but it's something that some of us would be looking forward to.
There's no game play attached to the camera suit or the holo-me. There's no game play added to naming your ship either. There are many features that are just for the looks, like paint jobs and ship kits. Walking around and looking at the mastery of the 3D object designers at FD is a thing some people would like to do, without it being a particular game play attached to it.
I think that was added for future purposes. Multi-crew isn't great and doesn't serve much use right now, but I suspect it's needed for things to come.
Has actually been here since 11/24/2013
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/8711-Elite-Dangerous-Newsletter-14-Out-Now
I'll admit, I'm pretty new to the game. I've put in maybe 30-40 hours. But I have yet to experience the situation you've described ("...When suddenly the ship alarms go off...."). Yeah, I've come out of hyperspace and run into the star a few times, but I've never been in a system and been attacked by pirates that I didn't knowingly get myself into. I think that's a pretty rare scenario.
When I'm flying through a system with pirates around or other dangers, I'm going to be extremely careful. I know I'm taking a risk of walking away from my controls, but that's a risk I want to be able to take. I'd save it for deep space exploration or trading in relatively peaceful/secure zones, or until I have a multi-crew member real, or NPC (with decent AI settings to take evasive action in danger).
Looking out the window mid-flight would never get old to me. I've spent more time in TES3:Morrowind, fishing (with mods) than actually doing anything else. Like hundreds of hours worth of fishing. It's all about a sense of "place".
The feeling that you're actually aboard your own Anaconda, standing deep in the bowels of your cargo hold, taking inventory, and seeing a planet go by in the window would be mind blowing to me. Now throw in some real holo-models of NPC passengers and/or crew doing their own thing would be super cool.
Now, if we're really dreaming...I'd actually love to see you get an emergency distress call from an unexplored system nearby where you have to land and explore an abandoned facility or derelect ship and inadvertantly bring aboard an alien organism that hides in your ship waiting to kill you.
Frankly, I'd be happy to see some form of space legs-even if it's just walking around my ship's rooms and such- before Star Citizen fully launches. If FDev beats that then I'd be thrilled. It would certainly mean good things for them.
FDev does like to roll out things in chunks. So I'd expect in ship walking around, then outposts, then large stations, then ground bases, then engineers bases, then walking around on planets. But it's hard to tell how far off FDev is on space legs really. You can see the parts they would connect to. Like I wouldn't expect to be able to exit my ship until I'm in the hanger. Or another being you can see inside some outposts (oh look there's an anaconda inside this Outpost)... They seem modeled already to some degree. So it would seem they have at least an idea of some stations floor plans.
FDev does like to roll out things in chunks. So I'd expect in ship walking around, then outposts, then large stations, then ground bases, then engineers bases, then walking around on planets. But it's hard to tell how far off FDev is on space legs really. You can see the parts they would connect to. Like I wouldn't expect to be able to exit my ship until I'm in the hanger. Or another being you can see inside some outposts (oh look there's an anaconda inside this Outpost)... They seem modeled already to some degree. So it would seem they have at least an idea of some stations floor plans.
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One thing i would like to see when we get space legs is illegal missions (piracy and civilian massacre missons and even wanted passengers) being moved from the mission board to a shady individual which works for the faction (however you need to be friendly or higher to get knowledge of the individual).
Because after all it doesn't make sense offering these highly illegal missions or giving out the location of a wanted pilot to anyone who opens the mission board.
Because after all it doesn't make sense offering these highly illegal missions or giving out the location of a wanted pilot to anyone who opens the mission board.