I'm Really Worried About The Thargoids...

1. They are hurt bad since last encounter, so they are careful with contacts with humanity.
2. If they are in the bubble, they have friends that are protecting them.
3. If they are in the pleiadies they are hiding well with technology we can not yet detect properly.
4. The incident with destroyed federal ships are not saying anything really. Accidental skirmish, nothing to worry about.
5. If Thargoids do show up, they are to be considered fully armed, ready to counter human kind and have learned how to defeat us if we start to misbehave.
6. If we go to war with the Thargoids AGAIN, which I think is a BIG mistake for both parties, then we can assume that the first thing that will happen is a bubble wide outbreak situation with catastrophic economical complications.
7. Even if we deal with the outbreaks ( CG's ), the Thargoids will have spread like fungal mycel through the entire bubble, occupying every key system we needed to defend our selves properly, and we will be under Thargoid rule.
8. If we do get a peaceful communication with the Thargoids ( Thargoid rather, cause the hive mentality of the higher org ), then we can assume there will be very sparse trading and mission interaction due to the suspicious actions of/by our Potters.
9. If the Thargoid keep hidden, then we can assume they are NOT strong enough to take us on in war and therefore we are safe. We can keep the peace and work on improving relations so we can suck all their secrets out of them in a friendly way.
10. When we start 2.4, there will most likely be a hidden, locked feature, where we can start as a Thargoid commander and fly Thargoid ships and do Thargoid side things. This is speculative, but very likely because Sir(not yet? ok..) Braben and FD are masters of content.

Lol @ No.10. I will HAPPILY take that bet. No chance.

Also while i do like FD, Masters of content?...No.
 
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The only thing I'm worried about is what side dish I serve with grilled Thargoids...

Probably croutons. They are ammonia based creatures, so likely their meaty bits will do as ours in something a bit too hot. Remember to wear flame retardant clothing at the dinner table.
 
I'm not worried. If you were the developer, how would you go about pleasing both the trigger-happy crowd and the diplomatically inclined with the introduction of the aliens? You'd probably split the aliens into two factions - one peaceful and one bloodthirsty. The pew-pew lot gets to shoot the bad guys, while the Church of Canonn colludes with the more amicable bugs division. You have your cake and you eat it too!
 
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edit: you haven't read the latest book which is canon.

Some would disagree. I mean, yes, it's probably (depending on whether Drew and FD are speaking to each other this week) canonical for this branch (i.e. the Elite universe as portrayed in Elite: Dangerous, retconned from the Elite universe of FFE, retconned from the Elite universe of FE2) of canon, but it's not canon canon in the way that Dodecs, Kraits and planets inhabited by harmless rodents are canon.


But yeah, on topic: there are plenty of people who'll shoot Thargoids for fun and out of curiosity, and it's well known that there are some people who'd eat their own grandmothers with a side order of kitten fillets and pretend they were doing it "for the good of the game, lulz", so it's a dead cert that whatever encounters there are between humans and aliens will take place at whatever the maximally hostile position is; that's the nature of the beast.
 
I'm not worried. If you were the developer, how would you go about pleasing both the trigger-happy crowd and the diplomatically inclined with the introduction of the aliens? You'd probably split the aliens into two factions - one peaceful and one bloodthirsty. The pew-pew lot gets to shoot the bad guys, while the Church of Canonn colludes with the more amicable bugs division. You have your cake and you eat it too!

Good reasoning. I would be careful to influence FD in their decision making. But that is one nice solution. Even if it is not so in the beginning, it may develop in that direction from player actions.

We already know that there are two major warring factions among players: The peacekeepers and the warmongers.

OF COURSE THERE WILL BE FIGHTING! And it will be PvP.

Guess what side gets to fly Thargoid ships in the end? The winning side!
 
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The only thing I'm worried about is what side dish I serve with grilled Thargoids...

Don't grill Thargoid meat. The gas is poisonous. You have to treat it like lutefisk. It must be watered down for at least two weeks, before you boil it.

Serve it with potatoes(not from Tau Ceti), mashed peas and bacon(of course). Apply plenty of bacon fat before eating.

Happy meal. :)
 

verminstar

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I think yer being very naive in thinking any player can change any aspect of what will be spoon fed pre determined responses and actions.

Frontier masters of content...that bit made me laugh I have to admit ^
 

verminstar

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Same, sign of a true fanboy :D.

Part of me thinks I should leave them to it as I have little to no interest in these thargoids as it is...in many ways, I genuinely hope they adopt a scorched earth policy and simply raze the entire bubble to the ground. The tears would be monumentally delicious in the aftermath...which is why frontier wont do it. Theyll make it opt in only gameplay where unless ye seek them out, ye wont ever actually be aware they even exist. I know I still aint never seen any because I choose to ignore them and just do other stuff.

Ye, part of me wants to just leave the role players to it...and another part of me is bored to the back teeth listening to them, but with nothing else to talk about...Im just weak willed and give in to temptation way too easily ^
 
But how about the Thargoid's posture towards humanity.

Last time I checked the galaxy is a big place. Why do these Thargoids hang around in the Cali nebula and not somewhere around Beagle Point?
The real reasons will probably be revealed once the update hits, but with the information we have right now it would be foolish not to interpret their proximity as a hostile act.
 
In the 16 bit Elite you needed like 24 shots with the military lazer of your Cobra Mk III to kill a Thargoid mothership. Up two four of these motherships appeared together, but with your Cobra you screwed them up all! It will be interesting if this will be possible in Elite Dangerous too with a Cobra.
 
Part of me thinks I should leave them to it as I have little to no interest in these thargoids as it is...in many ways, I genuinely hope they adopt a scorched earth policy and simply raze the entire bubble to the ground. The tears would be monumentally delicious in the aftermath...which is why frontier wont do it. Theyll make it opt in only gameplay where unless ye seek them out, ye wont ever actually be aware they even exist. I know I still aint never seen any because I choose to ignore them and just do other stuff.

Ye, part of me wants to just leave the role players to it...and another part of me is bored to the back teeth listening to them, but with nothing else to talk about...Im just weak willed and give in to temptation way too easily ^

I hear ya. Like i said in my previous post, ive had ED on ice for the last 4-5 months because im sick of the lack of challenge or friction in the galaxy. Theres no where you cannot travel risk free. Ive always said the implementation of the goids will decide if i quit or not. Unfortunately i too suspect that the goids will be hostile, but arbitrarily instead of coming in guns blazing despite the fact that they have the technology and advantage to do so; they'll just chill out in the middle of nowhere with only those who choose to fight them going in, in a bid to appease the people who make noise every time a little of bit a challenge presents its-self.
 
My hope is that Frontier will make it so players, that fire on the Thargoids, will regret it as they look at their rebuy screen. :D
 
Haven't read any Elite books.
Hadn't even heard of Elite until last year.
Don't need the lore to enjoy the game as it is today.
 
I'm kinda hoping there's a "Thargoid karma" scale hidden somewhere away..

The more of a gimboid you are to them, the heavier they'll come down on you. If you fly unarmed trade ships and have absolutely no negative history with the Thargoids, they may just over look you, like you'd over look a fly on the wall when you're busy doing something else...

After all, they should be able to swat humans like flies if they so desired, and like the insignificance of an individual fly when it's not bothering you, will be otherwise simply ignored as insignificant.

:)
 

verminstar

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I hear ya. Like i said in my previous post, ive had ED on ice for the last 4-5 months because im sick of the lack of challenge or friction in the galaxy. Theres no where you cannot travel risk free. Ive always said the implementation of the goids will decide if i quit or not. Unfortunately i too suspect that the goids will be hostile, but arbitrarily instead of coming in guns blazing despite the fact that they have the technology and advantage to do so; they'll just chill out in the middle of nowhere with only those who choose to fight them going in, in a bid to appease the people who make noise every time a little of bit a challenge presents its-self.

Im still playing but I agree, its just too easy right now...havent lost a single interdiction attempt yet...not even trying hard. Literally the only thing even remotely dangerous is falling asleep and faceplanting a moon...Im not even armed and have only mediocre rngeers and still, just cruising through without barely a whim of concern.

These thargoids...Ive never seen one...never seen a ruin either. In fact, if it werent fer the forums, I wouldnt think they existed at all. Thats a failing on the part of frontier...it should be in yer face and impossible to avoid entirely. Tragic ^
 
To be clear, in the previous Elite games the Thargoids were scary. You had almost no chance if you ran into them. I have a lot of hopes for 2.4, but I doubt it'll live up to them.
 
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