Elite: Dangerous Mega Survey Results
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What? Of course it does. Over 50% means you have the most votes out of everyone. It has nothing to do with politics; politics is just an easy example.
Open does not have the most votes overall. It has more votes compared to Solo, or to PG; but it does not have more votes over all. That makes it a plurality.
I haven't made any assumptions as to your agenda, wrt: abolishment of solo/pg. So no, I don't think that.
Where has anyone said that open got an overall majority. They haven't. They have said that open got the majority of the share out of the three groups. There is a big difference there.
How is this argument still going?
Also, I've noticed a few folks suggesting Redditors are all PvP folks who use it because it's not moderated like here. I think it would be incorrect to jump to that conclusion because as andovar has said, the number one profession was explorer and there is also a high number of solo-ist / PGers in the sample group. (But obvs not a majority. That would seem to go to Open)
If anything, you could say that Reddit has a larger PvE community than PvP . Its also interesting that the younger age range could mean that the often assumed stereotypes of spotty griefer is also incorrect. It seems the younger players prefer PvE exploring. Piracy for instance was massively under represented. Which is not what I would expect if Reddit was just PvP .
Also, I've noticed a few folks suggesting Redditors are all PvP folks who use it because it's not moderated like here. I think it would be incorrect to jump to that conclusion because as andovar has said, the number one profession was explorer and there is also a high number of solo-ist / PGers in the sample group. (But obvs not a majority. That would seem to go to Open)
If anything, you could say that Reddit has a larger PvE community than PvP . Its also interesting that the younger age range could mean that the often assumed stereotypes of spotty griefer is also incorrect. It seems the younger players prefer PvE exploring. Piracy for instance was massively under represented. Which is not what I would expect if Reddit was just PvP .
I am glad that open is first
Open is a good mode.
Or "god" mode, depending on your engineering and who you choose to target...
Yes, it is higher. Open holds the most individual votes, but does not hold the most votes overall.
Instead of summing up, let's leave it as is, okay?
So we have:
O: 49%,
S: 28%
P: 23%
In order to attain majority, O must attain more than half than all other votes combined - that's how it works.
Since O has not attained more than half, but has attained the most votes in comparison to it's counter-parts individually, O has attained plurality.
I feel like I'm running in circles here. :3
No they did not get a majority of the share... they got what is called a Plurality. Read up about it and learn the difference between Majority and Plurality, and we will never again have to discuss this matter.
I am glad that open is first
Open is a good mode.
Agreed
I told you I was going to leave this thread, but... I couldn't... giving up is a loser act... But, I agree... I think we are not reaching these guys, no matter how hard we try.
I told myself I would stay away, and yet...
To clarify:
1) I guess you were using a collective "you" but to be clear: I do not play on PC and I do not do PvP.
2) I tried posting it here, but my post was deleted by moderators. As I say in the post, which nobody seems to bother read.
3) the link/invite was posted by me on 3 subreddits and 3 discords, but after that, it travelled far wider than Reddit circles. Including -- I forgot to mention it in the post -- Alec Turner's sticky "Best of" Thread, here on the Forum, who linked to it. I don't even know all the places where it got posted. Arkadi above lists a few places I honestly had no idea knew about it.
Exactly. EVEN IF this comes form the terrible toxic PvP infested place that allegedly is Reddit, look at the results. PvP/Griefers are an extremely small percentage.
I already answered your second point. As for the first, yes I could see how many duplicate submissions there were, and the number was irrelevant.
To clarify:
1) I guess you were using a collective "you" but to be clear: I do not play on PC and I do not do PvP.
2) I tried posting it here, but my post was deleted by moderators. As I say in the post, which nobody seems to bother read.
3) the link/invite was posted by me on 3 subreddits and 3 discords, but after that, it travelled far wider than Reddit circles. Including -- I forgot to mention it in the post -- Alec Turner's sticky "Best of" Thread, here on the Forum, who linked to it. I don't even know all the places where it got posted. Arkadi above lists a few places I honestly had no idea knew about it.
Exactly. EVEN IF this comes form the terrible toxic PvP infested place that allegedly is Reddit, look at the results. PvP/Griefers are an extremely small percentage.
I already answered your second point. As for the first, yes I could see how many duplicate submissions there were, and the number was irrelevant.
How did you detect 'duplicate submissions'? Because as far as I'm aware, there are no known foolproof methods to prevent people assuming multiple identities on the internet....
Actually, of those who responded to the poll, neither open, private nor solo have a majority of votes. A majority would indeed be >50%. Open has a greater share of the votes than the other two options, but it is not the majority of votes as 51% voted differently. Now, had the poll question been only two options - open and not-open - it would be clearer cut, but the question has three options. In a political sense, if I understand it correctly and if we wanted to draw that analogy to this, open could at best form a minority government, and would require support from at least some of the voters of one of the other groups.
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Absolutely, I think everyone understands that. We are not talking about governments though.
Robert Maynard
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How about Open and PG instead?
The majority* do play in a multi-player mode....
*: of those who participated in the poll and are actually players that is.
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It would really help if you would accept that we understand what a majority is by your definition. There is no need to explain it again and again, we already new that before this thread...I told you I was going to leave this thread, but... I couldn't... giving up is a loser act... But, I agree... I think we are not reaching these guys, no matter how hard we try.
Indeed it is. However, the entire argument stems from this:
When counting votes, stating that something has the majority automatically infers that one group received more than half of the votes. That what majority means in the context of a vote (it doesn't matter how many votes options there are).
I suspect this 12 page argument, stems from each person's interpretation of Driver's post.
From my perspective, Driver is incorrect. The majority have not voted for Open Play.
So it's all Drivers fault.
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