I think the Thargoids are merely a diversion to throw our attention away from the REAL enemy.

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Just a few personal observations I've made that could potentially to debunked but, still, I thought I'd share them.

1 - Given that the Thargoids themselves appear to have suffered considerable losses at some point in time: Ship wrecks, derelict structures [Are they towns, cities or even downed mega ships?] scattered around.... who or what did this to them?

Are the Thargoids in as much in danger from another foe as we think we are from the Thargoids? Are the 'guardian's the REAL enemy here?

2 - We have seen many video's and screen shots showing fleets of human ships that have been decimated with a seemingly 'guilty' Thargoid ship wandering about the vicinity before then disappearing.

Were they merely investigating the aftermath as we were doing? Have we actually SEEN Thargoids actively engaging in combat at these scenes of devastation?

3 - Hyperdictions resulted in an immediate disablement and scan of our ships, at which point the Thargoid again disappears.

Idle curiosity it would seem, no more, no less.

4 - In NHSS's, there are antecedents that trigger a hostile Thargoid response including: Getting too close, carrying Thargoid items, preemptive 'human led' attacks including obtaining tissue samples with drones [as seems to be the norm].

Do WE not get hostile when faced with a threat or when someone has stolen OUR items?

5 - Reasons? Given the Thargoids are a mighty powerful and potentially ancient race in the galaxy, or even universe, they have had time eternal to annihilate humanity at source but have instead watched as we grew and spread among the stars.

Why? Do they see something in us that we ourselves do not see? Do they need us for something?

I do however confess to wondering at a few things, such as:

1 - Why do the Thargoids need human escape pods? - I sincerely hope we 'human's do not 'fly' their ships otherwise whoever owns the Babylon 5 license might have a word to say about it lol.

2 - What lays beneath the Barnacles... - I suspect there may be subterranean outposts beneath the barnacles.

Feel free to correct/highlight/discuss. It all helps

 

[zarking]

I agree.
The escape pods, maybe they think they're rescuing us, maybe it's for research, maybe it's like us picking up a probe, something they are curious about, or maybe... they're looking for something, or someone (maybe to see if we're the descendants of the guardian's).

It does seem like they're investigating the wreckage, if so, then they didn't cause it, or maybe their "evil" other faction did.

Of course, they might be the ones doing it and see it as wiping out an enemy invading their home turf.

The weird thing though, going back to the Salome story "they're already among us, they have been all along", what's that a reference to? If it's thargoids it could mean the barnacles, that they never went away, just hid under the surface, but what if it means something else, something more sinister..

 

[Soopyyy]

They probably don't even know what the escape pods are, just as we didnt know what their probes and such were.

 

[Surprised Brony]

They probably don't even know what the escape pods are, just as we didnt know what their probes and such were.

If the lore that says we've been in close quarters hand-to-appendage combat is still true, they know good and well what they're scooping up. If not, this theory is one I share.

 

[Net-FX]

I agree.
The escape pods, maybe they think they're rescuing us, maybe it's for research, maybe it's like us picking up a probe, something they are curious about, or maybe... they're looking for something, or someone (maybe to see if we're the descendants of the guardian's).

It does seem like they're investigating the wreckage, if so, then they didn't cause it, or maybe their "evil" other faction did.

Of course, they might be the ones doing it and see it as wiping out an enemy invading their home turf.

The weird thing though, going back to the Salome story "they're already among us, they have been all along", what's that a reference to? If it's thargoids it could mean the barnacles, that they never went away, just hid under the surface, but what if it means something else, something more sinister..

The one thing I have come to expect from the Fdev team is...well, the unexpected. . They think of things that honestly, I cannot even fathom on my best days... encryption, codes, patterns. All the usual 'god like tech' stuff you'd expect from coders [their brains work on a whole new level] however, I am seeing some 'regular joe' qualities too which bodes well for players like me who have a life outside of Elite he he.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

They probably don't even know what the escape pods are, just as we didnt know what their probes and such were.

They scoop one up, look inside and know what it is.

Since they still scoop escape pods up they know what they are doing. They might not know that doing this is considered an extremely hostile act by humans.

(Unless they suffer from the same game limitations like us, as we couldn't look inside the Unknown Thingies and apparently even the NPCs didn't look into those things for whatever reason…)

 

[CMDR Ofan]

I'm not sure if the lore still stands but the losses they suffered were a tiny part of an exploration party.

They just don't care about us, the same way you might feel about the types of trees that populate a forest far away, you just see them as decoration and occasionally a resource to use and barely qualifying as alive.

Even if we damage one of them they may view it as an environmental injury/death the same way we would if someone slipped and fell down the stairs if they were mucking around at the top of them.

It's just as likely they are using collected cargo pods for something like doorstops as they are to take an interest in the contents

 

[Net-FX]

They probably don't even know what the escape pods are, just as we didnt know what their probes and such were.

Exactly... they are just showing curiosity for the most part, resorting to hostility only when provoked. Though, there seems to be a few exceptions however, I've seen no pattern in those encounters thus far.

 

[CmdrZaratan]

Exactly... they are just showing curiosity for the most part, resorting to hostility only when provoked. Though, there seems to be a few exceptions however, I've seen no pattern in those encounters thus far.

To be fair they provoke real easy.

Also every one of them we encounter appear in a field of destroyed human ships covered in Thargoid weaponry marks.

If they're just investigating the aftermath of another factions work, wouldn't they be a bit more cautious about appearing hostile?

Frankly their actions towards us show they have a very low opinion of our species.

 

[Soopyyy]

They scoop one up, look inside and know what it is.

Since they still scoop escape pods up they know what they are doing. They might not know that doing this is considered an extremely hostile act by humans.

(Unless they suffer from the same game limitations like us, as we couldn't look inside the Unknown Thingies and apparently even the NPCs didn't look into those things for whatever reason…)

If they can even work out how to open, or know they do open. I mean if we hacked our way into a Thargoid probe, we're not going to have the first clue what we're looking at.
So why are we assuming the Thargoids are any more omnipotent?

To be fair they provoke real easy.

Also every one of them we encounter appear in a field of destroyed human ships covered in Thargoid weaponry marks.

If they're just investigating the aftermath of another factions work, wouldn't they be a bit more cautious about appearing hostile?

Frankly their actions towards us show they have a very low opinion of our species.

And we're just as ready to open fire. We've not seen them actively open fire on these wreckages, yet we're more than happy to assume they're all alike. It's a bit like the Thargoids assuming we're all Imperial, instead of understanding that there are multiple factions.

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

Good topic

It is worthy to note: the Thargoids have, so far, not used any sort of "Cuastic Gas" attack on our ships when we have fought them and killed them (when they ironically produce a cloud of caustic gas), yet the non-caustic gas that is around the ships when we originally jump in have got this caustic damage all over them... which means it must become harmless over time, but there's no dead Thargoids anywhere... (unless they've done a mop up operation before we jump in...)

So something does indeed look... wrong... very suspicious.

 

[J3DI]

Well they've certainly been successful in diverting our attention away from the crappy mission rewards.

EG: 2 mil for a 22k ly boom data delivery to Colonia!

 

[CmdrZaratan]

If they can even work out how to open, or know they do open. I mean if we hacked our way into a Thargoid probe, we're not going to have the first clue what we're looking at.
So why are we assuming the Thargoids are any more omnipotent?

For a start they can scan us and determine what we have in our cargo hold, before deciding whether to attack us.

And we're just as ready to open fire. We've not seen them actively open fire on these wreckages, yet we're more than happy to assume they're all alike. It's a bit like the Thargoids assuming we're all Imperial, instead of understanding that there are multiple factions.

I've encountered more than 10 Thargoids, and they've all fired on me without provocation. Frankly they're behaving like jerks.

 

[Net-FX]

Well they've certainly been successful in diverting our attention away from the crappy mission rewards.

EG: 2 mil for a 22k ly boom data delivery to Colonia!

On that note.... Have there been any sightings in the colonia region?

 

[Urazz]

Well they've certainly been successful in diverting our attention away from the crappy mission rewards.

EG: 2 mil for a 22k ly boom data delivery to Colonia!

To be fair, it's better than nothing. I never saw any kind of regular missions, like data delivery, to colonia on the standard mission board. I know the passenger missions do go that far out though.

Still, 2 million (and potential mats and/or cargo rewards) is not that bad for a long distance boom data delivery mission if you think about it. Those kinds of missions are crappy in payout regardless so I just see it as some extra cash for exploration runs.

 

[imski]

I’ve said this elsewhere. What if the Probes were Thargoid escape pods or eggs?

That would mean, that the Thargoids are just doing back to us, what we’ve been doing to them

 

[ShadowWolf Kell]

For a start they can scan us and determine what we have in our cargo hold, before deciding whether to attack us.



I've encountered more than 10 Thargoids, and they've all fired on me without provocation. Frankly they're behaving like jerks.

They've done that to me with escape pods and damaged escape pods in my hold. So much for the theory that they're peaceful and just don't know any better.

I’ve said this elsewhere. What if the Probes were Thargoid escape pods or eggs?

That would mean, that the Thargoids are just doing back to us, what we’ve been doing to them

While that's an interesting idea, I don't think so given they've acted very much like scanner propes.



Latest from Galnet as per today's newsletter. Unprovoked attacks are corroborated via the destroyed cargo carriers. If it's not the Thargoids, then it's human flying Thargoid ships pretending to be them.

 

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To be fair, it's better than nothing. I never saw any kind of regular missions, like data delivery, to colonia on the standard mission board. I know the passenger missions do go that far out though.

Still, 2 million (and potential mats and/or cargo rewards) is not that bad for a long distance boom data delivery mission if you think about it. Those kinds of missions are crappy in payout regardless so I just see it as some extra cash for exploration runs.

To a point.... if your ELITE exploration then it's just cash really... unless of course, there are more things to find en route to colonia... who knows. Wish I had time to explore more. Thankfully, the Canonn group seem to have members with exactly that.

 

[Soopyyy]

To be fair, it's better than nothing. I never saw any kind of regular missions, like data delivery, to colonia on the standard mission board. I know the passenger missions do go that far out though.

Still, 2 million (and potential mats and/or cargo rewards) is not that bad for a long distance boom data delivery mission if you think about it. Those kinds of missions are crappy in payout regardless so I just see it as some extra cash for exploration runs.

No, its an awful payout for the job alone. The only reason you'd do it is if you were going that way anyway.

 

[ape808]

Worth remembering - no-one has seen a Thargoid yet, we have only seen their ships, scavenger drones and ruins.

I think the ships we see currently are searching for their masters.