"Beyond" free for Horizon owners - LEP musings

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I am angry because this is how this noisy nonsense starts - for no obvious good reason. It adds just more artificial conflict and drama to community and nothing else.

People who paid for Horizons will get 4 new updates full of promised content at FX. Indicated by Zac there will be some new premium content to buy besides cosmetics.

Why anybody would get disappointed about that?


Oh I get it now. If someone expresses any opinion you dislike it's noisy nonsense.

That's fine you are entitled to your opinion.
 
I don't think FD only thing FD offered to LEP owners was Horizons beta pass. But even that has been available at sale before two of four Horizons betas.
The LEP includes beta access.. but I don't understand what point you're making here.

No, I don't see FD making exclusive content for LEP.
That's not quite what was being suggested (re-read Space Dandy's post s/he explicitly said "LEP should not equal "exclusive" content"). Rather, it was suggested that LEP holders would get pre-order content, as the LEP is effectively a pre-order for every expansion.
 
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I wish Frontier would be more clear when throwing around statements like "Free" and "Premium".

Right now there are a lot of CMDRs expecting all of the beyond updates to be free however Zacs said statement seems to indicate this is not the case at all.

It may be in frontiers interest to let people know exactly what is free in beyond and what is paid for.

"We are not ready to talk about it" is not a good move when you have a large section of the player base expecting to get something for free when clearly this isn't the case.

They quite clearly said that all content shown during the presentation will be free for Horizons owners.
 
Zac and Dale, actually huge THANK YOU for you to weighting in on issue! :) Sometimes it feels futile, but message is out there so here's up to 2018 in ED!

And moar Thargoids fun in 2017!

In case you didn't notice, they are already complaining that not everything in 2018 will be free of charge. This community is just nuts :D
 
However some of the player base are of the impression that next years updates will be totally free and we now know this is not the case.
How did they get that impression? I thought it was clear from the outset that Horizons was required for the "Beyond" updates.

This will inevitably lead to people getting upset when in 2018 the updates drop but there is a paid DLC for access to lets say the new ships beyond (pun intended) the ones specifically shown.
This is simply not going to happen (from what I can see), so nothing to worry about here.

Edit: I presume it was Zac's comment that prompted this concern? He said "premium content" which does not necessarily mean "paid DLC", at least, not in the sense of any sort of major update. IMO, it likely means things like squadron mega ships (which are going to be something we have to purchase) and other similar "content" (like paintjobs, bobbles, etc but perhaps slightly larger).
 
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They quite clearly said that all content shown during the presentation will be free for Horizons owners.

Could not be clearer.

The goal being this is : next year FD need to sell more Horizons DLC.
I discussed about this with the game director at FX2017 after the content reveal show.
 
Nothing wrong with it at all.

However some of the player base are of the impression that next years updates will be totally free and we now know this is not the case.

This will inevitably lead to people getting upset when in 2018 the updates drop but there is a paid DLC for access to lets say the new ships beyond (pun intended) the ones specifically shown.

With all due respect, parts of the player base are simply idiots. I think everyone should just stop caring about them being upset.
 
I am angry because this is how this noisy nonsense starts - for no obvious good reason. It adds just more artificial conflict and drama to community and nothing else.

People who paid for Horizons will get 4 new updates full of promised content at FX. Indicated by Zac there will be some new premium content to buy besides cosmetics.

Why anybody would get disappointed about that?

Since we just had a thread full of people who were disappointed that there might be no paid updates in 2018, we will now get a thread with people being disappointed that there will be paid updates. You can't make this up.
 
With all due respect, parts of the player base are simply idiots. I think everyone should just stop caring about them being upset.

Personally I asked for clarification to try and stop another mega moan thread happening if that was on the cards.

I really don't care myself if there is paid content in 2018 I will buy it as I like the game.
 
Since we just had a thread full of people who were disappointed that there might be no paid updates in 2018, we will now get a thread with people being disappointed that there will be paid updates. You can't make this up.


Which is why I made my post as I could already see this coming!
 
Edit: I presume it was Zac's comment that prompted this concern? He said "premium content" which does not necessarily mean "paid DLC", at least, not in the sense of any sort of major update. IMO, it likely means things like squadron mega ships (which are going to be something we have to purchase) and other similar "content" (like paintjobs, bobbles, etc but perhaps slightly larger).

As good flamer I would want to point out that if mega ships will come for real money that might trigger some additional threads to this one.

But hey, they will be at least next year :D
 

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Well that's weird. My post got deleted where I quoted Zac (I think) saying they had not even discussed beyone Beyond which I questioned and now my post is gone and his post mysteriously doesn't say that anymore.... :eek:

either that or my posts aren't showing for some reason though I've had no infractions or anything so if you now see 3 posts, the issue is at my end lol
 
/facepalm

adjective

for the duration of a person's life:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lifetime?s=t


;) :p

I know, I know...that will be *afterlife* pass there for extra special premium content.

I think that the words LIFETIME EXPANSION PASS pretty much says it all.

LEPs apply to expansions - FD decide what constitutes an expansion and what doesn't. Indeed they say they will look after LEP owners - if the new content was expansions then there would no need for any looking after, players would automatically qualify.

Hence some clarification rather than snide comments would help.

(Lifetime probably applies to the game, not the player by the way)
 
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