I mean seriously the PvP subforum has 40+ posts and even more and NONE has Developer interaction.[mad]
Here's proof.
https://i.imgur.com/eE2Jzqh.png
So is the PvP Sub-forum just a
trashcan? to make the dangerous discussion more PvEing?!
Because we are
LESS important Consumers than the other part of the forums?
Not less important, but more frequently the ones making everyone else complain.
Aside from either the completely brand new, who skipped past the tutorials and didn't see the link to the manual on the launcher, and just dive right in to open, only to be greeted by a hail of torpedoes, lasers, railguns and frag cannons as the stumble out of the mailslot for the first (and sometimes last time) as their Welcome To Elite - Git Gud Noob, or those who simply want to play a particular way because they were "promised" they could, only to find out that "their way" also has to include Other Peoples Ways that do not appeal to them, most folks do understand that this is a part of the Open community. Some will stick with it, others will depart never to return.
And that's OK. But is also this same PVP community who is regularly goading those who do not wish to engage in this sort of play to come engage in this sort of play, and that does not do that aspect of the community any good. And this isn't a reflection on the community as a whole - in fact, I'd wager those "bad apples" are only the smallest percentage, but it taints an entire community and the opinions of other communities as well. In many ways, I liken this situation to those NFL players who have taken to kneeling during the US National Anthem.
They are within their Constitutional Rights to do so, but I think they are doing more harm than good. Rather than winning people over to their cause, they are driving people away, deepening existing divisions, rather than bridging gaps.
I would ask the PVP community - what positive contributions have you made to make the Elite Universe a more interesting place for everyone?
And I'm pretty sure "I positively blew up that sidewinder on its maiden voyage" does not qualify.
Also, I'm pretty sure sitting inside a station using a ring of healing beams while blowing up everyone trying to take off is not a positive contribution. Yes, there may have been a mechanical flaw in the system, but there really are better ways to bring this to anyone's attention.
Elite has been called many things, by many people, but of all of those, the one that sticks out most to me is being called out for one of the most toxic communities - and there are times when the level of vitriol rises to amazing levels around here. And what gives rise to most of it?
Unwanted PVP, Speed-Ramming, and 5th generation engineered warships preying on brand-new-still-wrapped-in-plastic freighters.
And even more rarely it is not the theft of cargo that makes people so vocal, but rather the one-shot-kill, often without warning, in what can only be called a gross mismatch. But I also get it - a show of force, an intimidation factor, preying on the weak - it's all a part of certain PVP subset. To be honest, I actually found the concept of playing Galactic Space Pirate appealing, at least while I was downloading and installing the game a bit over a year ago.
But reading and researching while I waited I discovered this was not only terribly impractical, but largely unwanted. And why? Because the only recourse when someone will not drop cargo, puts up a fight, or tries to run is to open fire and attempt to disable a ship rather than destroy it. Even now, with the Yuri Grom Special Missiles, those wanting to engage in this are still quite limited in their ability to do so without running a continual risk of destroying a ship. Hatch Breaker limpets are either countered by defensive systems, or produce only a random smattering of goods, This is an entire occupation in deep need of some major reworking we might see come late Season 3, but I'm not holding my breath either.
Finally, mix the community toxicity with the kind of vitriol that gets generated toward the Development team every time they don't drop whatever they're doing to change the game to fit somebody's whims, and it's little wonder why there are no responses in the PVP forum. Who wants to talk with someone who acts like that?
