Star Citizen Discussions v7
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Not really. As I said, I have no time to dig everything up - my birthday today - but CryTek involvement in early demo crafting has been known for long time.
You can take it or leave it, but really, Chris didn't made those demos. He even boosted he got CryTek backing.
Looking back for long time I have realized he is both.
He is guy with vision but don't care about people implementing this vision, or partners helping him. He is both an cretin and con artist in same time. He thinks end justify means. That's why all these sells. That's why all these broken contracts and broken promises.
We always have this pop culture image of con artist as something very canny, clever, cold and cruel, almost either heart warming childish or cold blooded cynic sociopath.
What they usually are people who think that scamming people will bring their own - maybe not so scummy - goals to fruition.
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Happy birthday,
CR sweet talked CT to do the demo, just like if you sweet talk a woman into bed and sneak out in the morning, it’s sneaky, shady and there will be consequences
There were hints for years that CIG had not made it. Much of it was because Crytek had their employees at CIG helping them for some time, the fact that the video ended up being nothing like what CIG actually produced. Along with other hints over the years.
Happy birthday,
CR sweet talked CT to do the demo, just like if you sweet talk a woman into bed and sneak out in the morning, it’s sneaky, shady and there will be consequences
Thank you for giving first laugh of the day
Happy Birthday, Eagleboy. You have at least two excuses to drink.
More than two
Here's to you glorious forum dwarfs! Even you Cosmo!
Have fun!
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Hints aren't exactly proof in legal context, especially given the context of the original KS legal video promotion. I'm feeling even more scammed knowing this as a fact now.
On another topic DS said he has something of an even bigger lulzbucketry, I wonder what can be bigger than this?
Oh man, lawyers will have some fun. I cannot say i am happy if CIG goes down because of that. But i will not be surprised to hear:
"Sorry guys, no SQ42 material this year. The game is almost finished and it is the incrediblest fidelliest marvel in history. But because of the lawsuit we cannot show it."
DS claims stuff like this for years and never delivers. This guy isn't better than CR. He is also just here for the show.
Nope. it means they will be spending a lot of time explaining to Coutts why they don't own any collateral. [haha]
AFAICT CIG *did* buyout the engine, but the agreement basically said that "it will be a reduced fee because the title (SC) will provide publicity for Crytek, and the work will help to improve the engine".
Assuming the wording is "more legal", then CIG should have contacted Crytek to seek their permission to end the agreement.
No. They got a discounted engine, then a license for the source code. They didn't "buy out" CE anymore than I bought the M1 last time I got a MOT.
edit: page back to where I think CIG forgot an exit clause...
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Yeah, I think people really don't understand you can't transfer copyright that way. They can get exclusive license agreement, but that license still has strings attached to it. Code is owned by CryTek. So if they breach agreement they are in at least for copyright infringement.
Maybe CIG will survive this, maybe they won't, one thing is for sure, this is a suckerpunch and anyone who would apply for a job at CIG should reconsider, anyone working there, if they are any good, should seek elsewhere because heads will roll to cut expenses.
The backers got shafted once again, just as they have been shafted from day one on, however like any other "cult" maybe they want to do a collective "passing on" to reach the dream spaceship.
The backers got shafted once again, just as they have been shafted from day one on, however like any other "cult" maybe they want to do a collective "passing on" to reach the dream spaceship.
Yeah. I could write GodEngine 2000* and license it to you for $50,000 a month, then put it on GPL in March.
You still have to pay the $50,000/month.
*I really couldn't
Obscure thought: What if...
Crytek actually won this case and ended up with the rights, assets etc., to Squadron 42/Star Citizen? I'm unsure if I would consider this a desirable scenario, but it pretty much is the only way I could see the project being taken from the hands of Chris Roberst and maybe finished by somebody more capable of doing so.
Which is why I'm unsure I'd like this scenario. After all, Crytek seems not to be a posterchild of a stable dev house, regularily paying their employees and reliably releasing good games anymore either.
Crytek actually won this case and ended up with the rights, assets etc., to Squadron 42/Star Citizen? I'm unsure if I would consider this a desirable scenario, but it pretty much is the only way I could see the project being taken from the hands of Chris Roberst and maybe finished by somebody more capable of doing so.
Which is why I'm unsure I'd like this scenario. After all, Crytek seems not to be a posterchild of a stable dev house, regularily paying their employees and reliably releasing good games anymore either.
The denial is locked on target, well I need more muffins for this one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...eritless_lawsuit_that_we_will_defend/dr7nifc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...eritless_lawsuit_that_we_will_defend/dr7nifc/
Why would anyone in their right mind want the SC fan base? For the ridiculous expectations? The toxicity?