It's called 'planning'. For now it's nothing more than a nice touch that earns them a few shekels, but it'll be of more use in the future. Getting the assets in-game (and debugged) earlier rather than later is A Good Thing.
Do ED store proceeds go into Elite development?
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It's called 'planning'. For now it's nothing more than a nice touch that earns them a few shekels, but it'll be of more use in the future. Getting the assets in-game (and debugged) earlier rather than later is A Good Thing.
Because of multicrew I suspect. Not that I ever use multicrew as there is no reason to use it apart from a bit of fun, which I can easily find using my own ship, hopefully multicrew will be expanded upon with shared missions etc in the future to make it more worthwhile.
Also people enjoy creating their avatars.
Sorry but Beyond and JW were not being worked on in 2015/2016. They only had two IPs, Elite (which was a currently released game) and Planet Coaster (future self-published title).
It's like some people can't read a calendar and understand what FD was working on at the time.
Well, and Space Legs was announced as part of Braben's vision from the very beginning, too. If it was "just an avatar" they would have made them 2D portraits instead of even bothering with 3D assets.
Your interpretation doesn't make any sense.
That money very much does "belong" to Elite Dangerous if they sold us a product that they failed to deliver to an appropriate standard. They took revenue generated by a product they hadn't yet developed and used it to develop another product instead, then eventually delivered their first product a year late to a minimum viable product standard. The devs told us that they didn't have enough "time or resources" to develop multicrew properly and this tells you that those resources were used elsewhere.
Why do you think they completely abandoned the paid season model where we pay them for a full year's expansion first and then they maybe do the work later to a much lower standard? Even FD realizes that they can't pull the same trick on the Elite playerbase a second time after we've seen what they delivered for Horizons content.
You tried to claim that they were working on Beyond and JW in 2015/2016. Do you realize that unless they had a DeLorean and a flux capacitor it would have been literally impossible for them to start work on content they didn't have any plans to make at that time?
It makes plenty of sense... "I bought a product from the company, therefore it gives me the right to tell them what to do with the money I spent!"
It's still wrong, but it still makes sense
It makes plenty of sense... "I bought a product from the company, therefore it gives me the right to tell them what to do with the money I spent!"
It's still wrong, but it still makes sense
Yep, that's how I see it as well. Buying a product does not grant you shares in the company.
Because they do incrementally improve tech AND want to be tested and used in same time. All FD does is build all building blocks incrementally, like making sort of....what's right name....foundation for future features.
Do you know why GalNet Audio? Because there can be mission giver NPC audio. Because there can be NPC comms.
Duh, this
Dear OP,
It doesn't work that way. You've made a purchase because (hopefully) you want the things you've bought. That money has gone into the Frontier bank account. Once it's there it's up to Frontier to do with it what it wants. Spend it on new IP, new development or enhancing Development of Elite (in addition to share holders, taxes, etc.)
What's probably happened is Elite would have been already set a budget for 2018 and the development would be paid out of that budget, (considering that we're getting Beyond for free, I think the cosmetic purchases must be going quite well). But it would be daft for a company just to have only one or two product lines. It puts the company at risk because if something happens to that product, then the company goes under. Look at what happened to the Marvel Heroes MMO and what would happen to CCP if EVE went under.
Some people are not happy with the development pace of the game, well a decent update once every six months is not too bad (IMHO) and I prefer the approach that's been happening to what's happening over at CIS. I've come to the conclusion that atmospheric landings is not going to be seen till 2019 and Space Legs beyond that (even though I would be quite happy with just walking down to a space bar and chatting with other avatars).
It doesn't work that way. You've made a purchase because (hopefully) you want the things you've bought. That money has gone into the Frontier bank account. Once it's there it's up to Frontier to do with it what it wants. Spend it on new IP, new development or enhancing Development of Elite (in addition to share holders, taxes, etc.)
What's probably happened is Elite would have been already set a budget for 2018 and the development would be paid out of that budget, (considering that we're getting Beyond for free, I think the cosmetic purchases must be going quite well). But it would be daft for a company just to have only one or two product lines. It puts the company at risk because if something happens to that product, then the company goes under. Look at what happened to the Marvel Heroes MMO and what would happen to CCP if EVE went under.
Some people are not happy with the development pace of the game, well a decent update once every six months is not too bad (IMHO) and I prefer the approach that's been happening to what's happening over at CIS. I've come to the conclusion that atmospheric landings is not going to be seen till 2019 and Space Legs beyond that (even though I would be quite happy with just walking down to a space bar and chatting with other avatars).
First, I didn't claim that they worked on Beyond and JW. I said it's possible, that's all. How do you know they didn't work on Beyond or JW or Season 3 (atmospheric planets for example) in 2015. Do you own a DeLorean? Why do you believe they only started work on JW in 2017 when they want to release it in 2018?
In the same way that any Road Tax you pay to the Government pays for the roads....
Except public officials are voted into office to spend money toward "X" project, FD isn't a democracy where the customers get to decide where the money gets spent.
Nope, the money belongs to FDev. Doesn't work like that sorry, but you are being nieve. Whether it is an appropriate standard or not is your opinion.
They where in the process of developing it.
What do yo mean instead. They used some of that money to develop PC and horizons. Pretty much standard businees practice if you want your business to succeed. They didn't stop developing horizons which is obvious.
Not a year late, and as to whether it is MVP, only FDev can tell us that. That you think is is MVP is just an opinion and not a fact.
You are doing the 2+2 and coming up with 5. Do you not think when they said they didn't have enough time or resources available that they didn't have the resourses in the first place. They didn't run of to another IP. We know this is because if you bothered to check the credits which I linked for you. You would have seen that the core teams are completely different for planet coaster and elite dangerous. But I suppose those are facts you do not want to see, so ignore them.
Funny. I thought Horizons season 2 was far superior to season 1. It is not a trick, so stop being a conspiracy nut. As to abandoning the seasons, the told us the reasons why. But you carry on with your conspiracy nut theories.
Again you are showing complete ignorance of how things work. Stop it. You are making yourself look silly.
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We do know that some of the team where working on beyond before they worked on 2.4. Looks like to me that they had plans for this stuff much more in advance then what you think. You know nothing, but act like you know everything.
That's what I took from the 'Discovery Scanner' streams...code is often written far - sometimes very far - in advance of it being 'visible' to the players. Frontier are playing a long game.
Threads like this suggest that some people don't like the fact that Frontier work on games other than Elite: Dangerous.
But have those people considered that some of the store proceeds from sales of Planet Coaster and eventually Jurassic World: Evolution also go into development of Elite: Dangerous?
There's a saying: "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater".
Before you "demand" that Frontier take all their development staff off Planet Coaster and Jurassic World: Evolution to work solely on Elite: Dangerous, don't throw out other methods of income by abandoning these other games.
Without these other games to bring in other forms of income, there may not be enough money to provide enough resources to develop Elite: Dangerous and the game may end up being killed off (speculation, not necessarily fact).
... then again, maybe that's what people like the OP really want (ED killed off)...
But have those people considered that some of the store proceeds from sales of Planet Coaster and eventually Jurassic World: Evolution also go into development of Elite: Dangerous?
There's a saying: "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater".
Before you "demand" that Frontier take all their development staff off Planet Coaster and Jurassic World: Evolution to work solely on Elite: Dangerous, don't throw out other methods of income by abandoning these other games.
Without these other games to bring in other forms of income, there may not be enough money to provide enough resources to develop Elite: Dangerous and the game may end up being killed off (speculation, not necessarily fact).
... then again, maybe that's what people like the OP really want (ED killed off)...
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You're probably more spot on here than you know, because it wasn't released "the way they wanted it to be", they want FD to kill it off and get started with ED2 instead.