Mode switching for missions and Smeaton Orbital [200mill/hour]

[Jimbodiah]

OP, you didn't mention board flipping for 170-200 passengers easily takes 30 minutes, so the 200M/hour is complete rubbish unless you forget the time spent stacking on both ends. In reality it is more like 100M/hour unless you spend time grinding each faction to become allied with them all, and are Trade Elite. 80M/hour is more likely for people not alligned and elite. I've tried it 2-3 times but could not manage the patience to keep board flipping and then spend 40 minutes doing something else while having my headphones on listening to Elite in case you get interdicted.

Please stop whining about every exploit in the game just because you think someone else might make more credits than you as they are braindead enough to spend all their time mode-flipping and staring at a supercruise screen for 40-45 minutes.

 

[S3B4ST13N]

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Second screen comes in handy for this, I did it twice for a total of +-60mil - sound off, movie on the second screen.

 

[Cageman]

It's about a year since the rank rating of a mission (any mission) determined whether you could actually accept them or not, it's just an indication of difficulty now.

What? Why did FD do that?

 

[zombieapocalypse]

What? Why did FD do that?

The usual reason, because people complained!

 

[Cageman]

Anyways... I just tried this again, but this time without Mode switching.

Here is a list of systems / stations you can go to in order to pick missions up. I spent about 45 minutes going about between these systems to pick things up. As a bonus, you can take passenger missions to those systems in the list while stacking up missions to LTT 9360. I prefer playing this way.

Upsilon Aquarii - Allen Hub
HK Aquarii - Leestma Enterprise
LHS 538 - Jemison Vision
GD 1192 - Melvin Hub
Huichi - Collins Station

EDIT: I earned about 68 million.

 

[sb413197]

Anyways... I just tried this again, but this time without Mode switching.

Here is a list of systems / stations you can go to in order to pick missions up. I spent about 45 minutes going about between these systems to pick things up. As a bonus, you can take passenger missions to those systems in the list while stacking up missions to LTT 9360. I prefer playing this way.

Upsilon Aquarii - Allen Hub
HK Aquarii - Leestma Enterprise
LHS 538 - Jemison Vision
GD 1192 - Melvin Hub
Huichi - Collins Station

EDIT: I earned about 68 million.

Now THAT is a great suggestion. I abhor mode switching for more than a single board swap and will probably be trying out this little beauty (if I can tear myself away from engineering at some point). Thanks!

 

[Ebel]

Well OP, to tell the truth what other people do in the game really doesn't confront me. You (meaning whoever) can grind your ranks, engineers, credits or any other thing and frankly it is none of my business what makes one happy in their game play as long as it doesn't directly harm me. Presently I am farming credits (first time I have done something like that and I was already an "in game billionaire"). I want to be ready when carriers drop and be able to afford a somewhat minimal one for exploration purposes. I hope they have a good jump range. I enjoy what I am doing and don't feel (and it's a fact) that I am "exploiting" the system; rather, I am being finally compensated reasonably for what I have put in and my (upwards of) 1 billion credit ship doing the job. I'm a Capitalist, not a Socialist. What I have and do is no ones business but my own until I directly harm you somehow.

 

[Flin]

Mode switching to get more desirable missions has been reviewed; action was to increase missions per board, but not sync boards across mode.

Mission payout has been reviewed; action was to scale by SC distance and LY distance. There were some tweaks, but formula remained.

Endless passenger demand was raised; and I think based on the station evacuation missions, FD might be working on tuning the demand. Thus, once passenger supply/demand is fixed, balance will be restored [at bit at least] in the Elite Universe

 

[insanephoton]

Anyways... I just tried this again, but this time without Mode switching.

Here is a list of systems / stations you can go to in order to pick missions up. I spent about 45 minutes going about between these systems to pick things up. As a bonus, you can take passenger missions to those systems in the list while stacking up missions to LTT 9360. I prefer playing this way.

Upsilon Aquarii - Allen Hub
HK Aquarii - Leestma Enterprise
LHS 538 - Jemison Vision
GD 1192 - Melvin Hub
Huichi - Collins Station

EDIT: I earned about 68 million.

And sometimes you get lucky with a Smeaton mission wanting an alternative destination too.

 

[Cageman]

And sometimes you get lucky with a Smeaton mission wanting an alternative destination too.

Yeah... usually that thing pops up in the middle of the flight towards Smeaton, and in some cases I have other passengers that only have 40 minutes left to hit their deadline at Smeaton. I have to tell them... "Hey... you boarded this ship with the intention to go to Smeaton. I can't change that, since I do have a bunch of other passengers that are very eager to reach Smeaton.

It is not a real problem... they will moan about it, but since I am the Commander of the ship, the have to live with the fact that they changed their minds midflight; and I can do nothing about it.

 

[Ninj]

Count the "Working as intended" comments right here.

 

[sb413197]

Count the "Working as intended" comments right here.

There's always another gold rush. Trying to eliminate moneymakers in a game this complex is like playing whack-a-mole. I'll bet there are like 5 other big moneymakers active as we speak that nobody talks about.

 

[Red Fox Four]

[wacky] The CMDRs who whine about this sort of game mechanic, which FDev has stated repeatedly is working as intended are the often ones who already have over a billion credits in their account so, what is your credit balance?

390 000 000, give or take, with 1 conda, 1 cobra 3 and 1 eagle in the fleet stock.

 

[Red Fox Four]

OP, you didn't mention board flipping for 170-200 passengers easily takes 30 minutes, so the 200M/hour is complete rubbish unless you forget the time spent stacking on both ends. In reality it is more like 100M/hour unless you spend time grinding each faction to become allied with them all, and are Trade Elite. 80M/hour is more likely for people not alligned and elite. I've tried it 2-3 times but could not manage the patience to keep board flipping and then spend 40 minutes doing something else while having my headphones on listening to Elite in case you get interdicted.

Please stop whining about every exploit in the game just because you think someone else might make more credits than you as they are braindead enough to spend all their time mode-flipping and staring at a supercruise screen for 40-45 minutes.

Getting to ally with the factions at Allen Hub took me 1 day of modeswitching to stack 20 courier missions and delivering them using my Eagle. I also boosted the process by injecting spare cash for the Aid/donate missions.

Stacking passenger missions in an Economy Passengers only fitted Anaconda through mode switching takes about 15-20 minutes at most. Flight to Smeaton about 40. Return trip to Allen hub about 3 minutes at most.

So it takes about 55-65 minutes total and payout for fully loaded Conda is 180-220 mill depending on your luck with missions generated.

 

[Red Fox Four]

OP I do see your point however you've just advertised this to the whole forum.

I've heard of smeaton but never been there. I'm actually considering doing it because it sounds like a good way for a time poor player like me to make some serious credits.

I don’t mind that people know. In fact, if this method of printing money is to persist in the game then every player has a right to know rather than waste their time earning pennings for months if they really want a large ship.

Awareness is healthy and necessary for there to be a constructive discussion around it.

There are plenty of sound arguments for keeping this Smeaton printing press (and others) brought up in this discussion, as well as plenty of sound reasons to remove it or tweak it so the cash-vs-time spent is more aligned with the different career options in the game (which may mean boosting the earnings of the different careers instead).

How can we discuss if this is to just be some hush-hush thing only know to a very few?

 

[Red Anders]

How can we discuss if this is to just be some hush-hush thing only know to a very few?

How do you think it's 'some hush hush thing'? I've never done a passenger mission from the systems mentioned in this thread in my life but I've made plenty of credits from passenger missions. I worked out what what conditions created profitable (i.e 20m+ per mission) passenger missions, checked out some systems that met those conditions and found one that met my needs. This is before the threads on here and reddit about it.

When you say that there's no information in the game about them you're completely wrong; the game makes it blatantly obvious how to find those missions. It just doesn't have a galnet article saying 'HEY GO TO PLANET X IN THE Y SYSTEM FOR AWESOME HIGH PAYING PASSENGER MISSIONS' or a message on the launcher about it and unfortunately, that is the bar above which some player's ability to discover things cannot pass.

 

[Forge64]

So I just took my bulk Beluga from Parutis to Allen Hub, and managed to find two passenger missions to Smeaton, totalling 50M, after about two hours of scumming. I'm guessing the BGS has shifted. Now, a couple times, I've heard people say to hit eddb and use that to find/make your own passenger bulk sites. I've done plenty of trading loops, and used eddb to find rare upgrades now and then, but I'm not clear on what to look for. How do I tell eddb to show me stations 1.0-1.5MLs from their star? How do you look for nearby boom/war/civil war systems to get the missions from? Feel free to tell me to go search for "XYZ" on the forum, I'm not turning up anything relevant myself. Thanks.

 

[Forge64]

I worked out what what conditions created profitable (i.e 20m+ per mission) passenger missions, checked out some systems that met those conditions and found one that met my needs. This is before the threads on here and reddit about it.

When you say that there's no information in the game about them you're completely wrong; the game makes it blatantly obvious how to find those missions. It just doesn't have a galnet article saying 'HEY GO TO PLANET X IN THE Y SYSTEM FOR AWESOME HIGH PAYING PASSENGER MISSIONS' or a message on the launcher about it and unfortunately, that is the bar above which some player's ability to discover things cannot pass.

Okay, yeah, I resemble that remark. I've got the broad strokes of what I'm looking for, I just don't know how to ask eddb. Help me help myself?

 

[SpeakerToAliens]

What would the griefers do anyways?

Everyone is just board-hopping between each mode then flying off in group or solo mode, or whatever mode they are in when the passenger cabins are full.

Plus, any griefer trying to catch a ship on the way to Smeaten would have to get them immediately as they enter or follow them half-way to Smeaton before they start to decelerate again.

Be careful on long SC runs. Griefers have been known to sit halfway to Hutton to ambush CMDRs who are AFK for 90 minutes and come back to a rebuy screen.

 

[Garix]

A simple question to the OP,

At which point did you decide it was wrong to run these missions?

Was it while you were running missions to increase rep at the station?

Or while you were actually running the passenger missions for 200 mil at a time?