Some people just can't seem to stop blaming those "meanies who don't play the same way I do!" for everything they don't like in the game. Even when it is in an entirely unrelated topic. It's quite sad really.
So.....that Tech Broker
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It would be really good to see the stats for the weapons/modules prior to unlocking. For weapons to know the power requirements or ammo for example same as you could source if you were browsing in the outfitting.
I really hope FD mission systems get that sophisticated one day. I have been making the same point for a while, it not missions that the problem, most games use the same templates, take item from a to b, kill enemies, hunt x, it the story that makes the difference. An if Frontier can figure out how to generate some procedural stories around the missions that make sense, Frontier really would be on to a winner.
Making sure the procedural stories make sense all the time is the hard part here and I suspect the reason why they haven't tried it yet.
It would but not a high priority in my view, the community is likely to quickly tabulate that data (and how best to engineer them too). If they are just redded out in outfitting you should be able to get some info at least, as with the current modules.
I wonder if this will be a way to get Prismatic Shields without having to deal with PowerPlay which I really don't want to do...
Since when was an engineer unlocked by a CG?
Never is the answer. They are unlocked individually, just as are Tech Brokers.
It is exactly the same mechanic and gameplay.
I can't begin to quantify my utter indifference to this 'exciting new personal narrative'.
I was talking about that, but you only quoted one bit of my post didn't you
FDev don't have a great record for thinking through how systems will get abused and there's no other group more determined to push any system to the limit to gain an advantage, and to object wildly if anything should restrict their access to what they want. Try discussing having powerplay weapons not on automatic rebuy if you're no longer aligned or exclusive ranking/ship access....
Anyway we will see, my apologies for jangling the chain
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I see your point, but I think I'd rather see less random generation, and a bit more guided discovery...
Nope, not engineers, tech. Like all the anti-thargoid stuff and the corrosive resistant cargo racks. All became available as a result of CG's.
We won't unlock the brokers, just choose which of their products we are interested in, but we can do so individually, without the 'community' being involved in the choice..I think they shouldn't have used the term personal narrative, as many (myself included) have jumped on that as being some kind of story driven gameplay. And if you think I am in favor of how they are doing it, then I guess my posts in this thread are too diplomatic.
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Yeah I agree, but I would rather not have to google or visit forums to figure out if its worth unlocking. The descriptions look good but missing some of the vital info. Should be something available in the game IMO.
I would hope not. Can you imagine? Someone has to find CIF, and someone else has to find MIF. They have entirely different drop rates and distribution. The rarity of a material, often isn't reflected. You can land on a pristine planet, and find endless very rares, and virtually no uncommons.
I hope, really really hope, it's consistent for once. Because the one thing this game really needs, is even more inconsistent and random outcomes. :/
How about Frontier improves Powerplay, so that you do want to, instead? Might be a better outcome, rather than just ignoring it for another three years and handing the modules out because people don't like choices and consequences.
Understand what you are saying, but the better option is to improve both; not further ruin one, to serve another.
I was talking about that, but you only quoted one bit of my post didn't you
Let's just say you walked into that one, shall we?
They are also going to find the weaknesses and broken elements, far more than people who don't push boundaries will. Regardless of personal opinion, people who push the envelope are important to a game. Dismissing their value, purely on personal grounds because of a disagreeance on how they play, does everyone a disservice.
One can fundamentally disagree with a certain play style; but don't dismiss the value that often fiercely loyal people, who have an equally strong desire to see the game improve, bring to the table.
I'm not a PVP person really; I'll shoot back at times if shot at, and will do my best to not suck; but I think there's been a bit of an overreliance on demonising a portion of the community, that has statistically otherwise been very good at communicating issues within the game to frontier.
It's very easy to sit in a forum and bag various groups for behaviour and so on; takes a bit more effort to actually engage with frontier, raise bugs and seek improvements. Just something to consider.
I did not do that, so the rest is pretty irrelevant isn't it. Check back if you want. Argue with me about what I said, don't make stuff up then put yourself in a position of righteousness based on your imaginings. Something for you to consider.
On the back of fairly inflammatory post, I'm not entirely sure; I think we can probably move on, no?
As long as what we're doing for the tech broker has some sort of reason for being, then that'll be a good improvement; a fair amount of mechanics is pretty much meaningless repetition. So having reasons, at least, is a start.
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I think moving away from CGs when it comes to tech or modules is a good move for everyone.
Call me skeptical but open minded. This has all the hallmarks of "Unlock Cancer" and seems to hint at a F2P model somewhere in the game's future, but so little has been shown at this point. It's certainly possible to do something like this in a way that feels rewarding and engaging, so will wait and see . . .
The only example I've even seen is the one in the screenie earlier in the thread and although we don't know what kind of availability the new material there has, you could easily pick up the rest in an afternoon; it's hardly cleaning the Augean stables.
Agreed. Butttt... having to spend hours playing moon patrol to find the necessary mets seems a little tedious to my mind.