The epic fail of the epic fail of Beyond!

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
CMDR QUANTIS TRAP said:
I think time will prove that the latest "Epic Fail of Beyond" type threads were all wrong!

What a great couple live threads we've had about Beyond! I'm more excited about this next release than I've been about the last several!

Good job Frontier!
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That's some expertly meta thread, you've got here. :D

But I agree. I'm pretty pumped. The planets and especially the trading computer and map changes are really something I will be enjoying every day. :)
 

Surprised Brony

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Honestly...I didn't know we were getting half of what chapter one is bringing. I knew the features we were getting, I just thought it would be basic additions. Instead, we have these fully functioning and useful features that could have easily been done worse. Frontier is doing great.
 

Janichsan

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TGC Brony TO said:
Honestly...I didn't know we were getting half of what chapter one is bringing. I knew the features we were getting, I just thought it would be basic additions. Instead, we have these fully functioning and useful features that could have easily been done worse. Frontier is doing great.
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But to add a smidgen of negativity: they should have added these things two or three years ago to have a much more solid base game, instead of just throwing in even more half-baked features.
 
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seko

seko
We're getting the engineers update in next Tuesdays live stream. I have a feeling we will be pleasantly surprised
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
Whoa there CMDRs - let's not slip loose the dogs of hype, for as the great Buddha once opined:

'The hope of youth leads to excitement. From excitement comes hype, cascading over the waterfall of woe flowing surely to the creaking knees of old age, and the mocking laughter of CMDR Thrust.'

Although, I may be misremembering the quote a tad...
 
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shadow133

shadow133
I find myself in between excited to see these awesome changes and cautious to know what will be screwed up. It seems like every update improves in some areas and rolls back on others. No need for details as this is my perception only, but I feel like that: Horizons introduced planetary landings, srvs but also beige planets. The ones in 2017 improved a couple of qol stuff but the message system is still screwed.

Don't get me wrong I am excited as never about the new planets, engineers, c&p, etc... but something tells me this can still fail. I measure “failure” not by threads, but by how much of my limited time I spend on ED and how much frustration is introduced. I hope to enjoy the new things without any problems.
 
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krylite

krylite
I do like how Frontier has been humbly and "under" or vaguely promising, then with good timing, surprising and exceeding expectations.
 
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Stealthie

Stealthie
Chris Simon said:
That's some expertly meta thread, you've got here. :D

But I agree. I'm pretty pumped. The planets and especially the trading computer and map changes are really something I will be enjoying every day. :)
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That stuff does sound like it'll be pretty nice.

It kind of makes me wonder why a lot of the stuff that's appeared recently, and a lot of the new stuff that's being proposed, is so halfassed though. [sad]
 

Surprised Brony

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Janichsan said:
But to add a smidgen of negativity: they should have added these things two or three years ago to have a much more solid base game, instead of just throwing in even more half-baked features.
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Two or three years ago, people weren't so jaded and heavy on the complaints either. Given enough time, every game gets boring and seemingly shallow. Somehow.

All I'm saying is that they could have half-baked these improvements. Looks like they did better than that so far.

Stealthie said:
That stuff does sound like it'll be pretty nice.

It kind of makes me wonder why a lot of the stuff that's appeared recently, and a lot of the new stuff that's being proposed, is so halfassed though. [sad]
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Halfassed? What half is missing from the proposed improvements in your eyes?
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
TGC Brony TO said:
Halfassed? What half is missing from the proposed improvements in your eyes?
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Well, if you must...

Starting with 2.2 (The Guardians):-
Implementation of NPC crew is halfassed in that it doesn't allow NPCs any functionality aboard your ship.
SLFs are halfassed in that they can't be deployed at the same time as an SRV.
NPC crew are halfassed in that they have no detailed 3D models.
Mission structure halfassed as a result of ongoing bugs.

2.3 (The Commanders):-
Holo-Me is halfassed in that it allows only limited modifications to character size and proportions.
Holo-me is also halfassed in terms of personalisation; hair and clothing etc.
Multicrew is halfassed in structure, implementation, reliability, features and rationalisation.
Mission structure continues to be halfassed as a result of ongoing bugs.

2.4 (The Return):-
"Mysterious and exciting things" are halfassed in that they turned out to be USS's.
Thargoid attacks are halfassed in that they only ever occur during server updates and we never actually get to see them.
Damage to stations is halfassed in that it only ever occurs during server updates and we never actually get to see it happen.
Mission structure continues to be halfassed as a result of ongoing bugs.

3.0 (Beyond) - speculative:-
Changes to material gathering are halfassed in that providing a "material broker" is a band-aid solution in lieu of more engaging gameplay.
Changes to engineering are halfassed in that they are a train-wreck of conflicting goals and obstacles.
C&P is halfassed in that it appears to lack cohesive intentions, logistics and consequences.
Tech Broker is halfassed in that it relies on the same tedious "fetch materials" mechanic in lieu of more engaging gameplay.


Now, I'm quite happy to admit that FDev has managed to provide a heap of decent stuff at the same time but let's not pretend that the garbage didn't happen too, eh?
 
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StarfireIX

StarfireIX
CMDR QUANTIS TRAP said:
I think time will prove that the latest "Epic Fail of Beyond" type threads were all wrong!

What a great couple live threads we've had about Beyond! I'm more excited about this next release than I've been about the last several!

Good job Frontier!
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Don't put all your money into something you haven't tried yet. Better to stay cautious and be hyped for something that may become depressing. I'm still not keen on this 'Personal Narrative' if it's nothing but grinding and unlocking weapons. Was kinda hoping for a chain of missions but the forums could be just spreading lies. :D
 
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