A huge challenge upcoming to frontier after release!

Don't you think it's going to be incredibly empty then? Frontier can't possibly hope to populate 400 billion systems with something unless they come up with a way to randomly generate content.

I'd expect the database supporting the game will have trouble just having a table with 400 billion rows just to store the names of them all,much less the planets, stations and then economies of them all. Can you imagine the amount of data?

they've really bitten off a big chunk by stating 400 billion stars to explore. I'd be amazed if it ever gets over 10,000.

i think all of them are already in the game
you can also find the SOL star system in the galaxy map, and whatever star you may search for
 
It would make me smile if the Earth space station became one of the biggest hubs of player activity.

that seems very likely to me
i don't know the lore but the map show SOL as the centre of the Federation space
and for senitmental reasons too, i would assume Earth will be one major hub
 
If they could take current height maps/elevation data that are very accurate these days and somehow compress the data or make some sort of algorithm it might be possible? For Flight Sim X a fairly detailed global mesh addon is several gigabytes of data.
 
Earth wont be a sphere planet anymore ..25% of its mass was blown up to space due WWW 4 ..half of the planet inhabitable ..most earthans now lives on Tetragonal space station called the 'Tet' ..guarded by thousands of drones <.<...nothing good comes out from it except as a planetorial museum for tourists visiting their original home planet.
 
Don't you think it's going to be incredibly empty then? Frontier can't possibly hope to populate 400 billion systems with something unless they come up with a way to randomly generate content.

It's called procedural generation.

The whole of the game "no mans sky" is going to be made this way.
 
I wonder how frontier will model the surface of Earth, the best explored and mapped planet to date! :) It will probably be quite hard to do so! I also hope there will be some kind of mega station orbiting earth.

I already see here some questions like: Hey, I don't see my house... answer on that would be: get a car driving sim :mad:

:D :D :D
 
I've been thinking a lot about Sol system and how they are going to do it.

You can get a lot out of PG but I don't think they will be able to reproduce known landmasses.

You can remove all man made landmarks, current fauna an flora and the Earth will still be a large amount of data.

It would be a shame to have an nicely made accurate milky way and a bodged sol system.
I'ld prefer some conceit to totally remove earth and co from the game.

A mysterious event on sol to make it go nova perhaps.
 
It has already been stated by The Man (DB), that Earth has undergone major environmental catastrophe and reclamation. Possibly also nuclear war.

In Frontier the West Coast of the US was hundreds of miles inland from current location.

FD will get the basic height maps correct, but everything else will be different. Take that as a given.

This has to be one of the things they are spending a lot of time working on that we won't see until Gamma. Humanity's home system has got to have TLC over and above the PG routines for all the other exoplanets and stations.
 
Isn't there already in game lore that Earth was essentially blown up, remade and terraformed multiple times by the time we're playing Frontier: Elite 2.

....nice reasoning for not having to have land masses and cities as we know them :)
 
Just take Google Earth and apply some pixel magic to make it look like ED content. :)

In all seriousness: I suspect we'll have blown ourselves to smithereens by 3300. We're a combative lot and love to fight over the silliest things.

So - I'm sure FD could create some suitable lore that sees the Earth as being quite different (and generally annihilated) which means they can take creative license: e.g. suggest that everyone evacuated the Earth due to contaminated atmosphere and uninhabitable terrain, and relocated to other planets/space....) Problem solved!
 
Ive seen a timelione somewhere that stated that a very big ww3 has happend and that alot of the population got wiped out. So i think FD has alot of freedom to make it as they see fit. Gonna be interesting to find out what!

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner.

WW3 happened in 2040 according to the official Elite timeline and it caused a "huge loss of life" and was later abandoned a decade or so due to great unpopularity.

That is why we have New Sydney and New San Francisco among other things.
 
Don't you think it's going to be incredibly empty then? Frontier can't possibly hope to populate 400 billion systems with something unless they come up with a way to randomly generate content.

I'd expect the database supporting the game will have trouble just having a table with 400 billion rows just to store the names of them all,much less the planets, stations and then economies of them all. Can you imagine the amount of data?

they've really bitten off a big chunk by stating 400 billion stars to explore. I'd be amazed if it ever gets over 10,000.

As others have said - procedural generation. It's not about quantity of data, but quality of algorithms. If they can code a system to generate a convincing, interesting and astronomically correct star system, with all of the possible variations that can be expected to occur given our current understanding, then the job is done.

PG isn't about making 100 billion star systems, it's about making one star system that has enormous variation. Once that's achieved therw is no limit to the size of the game. The sandbox could be the observable universe, not just our galaxy, with little more overhead.

That's one of the most interesting things about this game and the way the devs are approaching it. It is infinitely scalable. We happen to have a version that is set in our galaxy, but there would be nothing to stop the same engine being used to create a game set at a much earlier time but limited to our solar system, and with the same level of scale. eg, hundreds of asteroid and natural/artificial satellite bases instead of star systems, extensive trade routes between the habitats, a major factional divide between Earth, Mars and the Inhabited Asteroids, etc.
 
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