I don't think it was. I think someone said they said something about something wrong in the algorithm. Assuming that is not an excuse. They said they just took it offline for rebalancing and will be redoing it soon. Hopefully it will still give good payouts later.
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I don't think it was. I think someone said they said something about something wrong in the algorithm. Assuming that is not an excuse. They said they just took it offline for rebalancing and will be redoing it soon. Hopefully it will still give good payouts later.
all means of making money at more than maybe 2 million an hour for space trucking is too much for space truckers.
When you have to be worried if you'll make it to your destination alive ...then space trucking can start making money.
Be it trucking goods or people.
When you have to be worried if you'll make it to your destination alive ...then space trucking can start making money.
Be it trucking goods or people.
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Besides dissing other people, do you have any point here???
Aww, the cry-babies lost their "I Win" button......now they might have to work to earn their credits. Cry me a river guys.
what????? what are you doing that you have ANY kind of repair bill??????
The only reason that a PAX should pay out in the *millions* is if you're taking passengers *thousands* of Light Years and/or if it's almost guaranteed that you'll run into *serious* trouble along the way.
says you. i was having fun running those missions. was having a blast. was going to try to get to 10billion. now, because of you whiners, the fun is gone. so how about I play my way and you shut up and play your way??? Deal??
Hypocrite much?
Bummer :-(
I never found it to be gameplay I enjoyed, but heck I didn't enjoy chopping wood in Fable but it was one was of grinding for money.
I have to disagree because if I have a cargo ship that cost 500 million, I shouldn't have to spend 250 hours to recoup my investment.
Requiring 250 hours to recoup the investment in moderately well equipped Anaconda seems cruel.
Especially since new players in Sidewinders get single missions offering 100K+ all the time, why should someone with 2, 3, or 4 more years in game be stuck at 2 mill total per hour?
In what way does an "I win" button make the game "fun"? The fact is that it's people like you who have been the leading cause of having this game become a lazy, "easy mode" bore fest. Mission designers are afraid of upsetting people like you, so dumb down all the missions so they're overpaid milk-runs. I suggest that a more "on rails" game would be more up your alley.
Because of you whiners, we had a perfectly fantastic & competent AI dumbed down to the point where it became like "shooting fish in a barrel" again.
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It defo wasn't 200mill/ph as one thread suggested, as I had spent 5 days doing the runs and the average payout for 8 hours per day was around 40-50 million an hour when averaged out.
It shouldn't have been nerfed, not for end-game players (though many would say end-game begins in a sidewinder) - so, by that, I mean Double/Triple Elite pilots.
It shouldn't have been nerfed, not for end-game players (though many would say end-game begins in a sidewinder) - so, by that, I mean Double/Triple Elite pilots.
I didn't say you'd have to spend a long time to make money. Just that risk should be balanced with reward. It never has been. It's only gotten worse over time because to placate the userbase who rightly complains about this or that being boring or a waste of time, they have buffed reward.
They need to buff risk and do so in more than just the single dimensional way they have been (making it more tedious/boring). What's kept them from doing that though, is that everything surrounding the reward is boring or lacking any sort of interactive gameplay (traveling). They have to address that before they can properly address risk vs reward without alienating all of the players.
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I missed the part where it says "and earn 500mill p/h"?
lmao I love how the earnings go up by about 100m every time someone posts about them, at this rate in 2019 people will be saying 'wow remember those stupid passenger missions that paid seven billion an hour?'
ah yes.... the holier-than-thou cmdr has arrived. seriously, who made you king? Where is this "I win" button you imagine exists???? The fact is, its players like you that make the game tedious and not fun at all. just because you think you are the end-all be-all of players just makes you sound like an arrogant . you don't want to know what i suggest for you. get off your high-horse and let people play the way THEY want to. I bet you're a lot of fun at parties. oh.....and you wouldn't know a "perfectly fantastic & competent AI" if it tucked you into bed.
I don't have the 24 hours a day to play like you do. I get maybe an hour a day to play. So yes....I want to try things out. If people like you get their way, which seems to be the frontier way, there is no incentive to play. The arrogance you exude is absolutely disgusting.
Even in the best countries, a significant portion of people don't get university level of education so yeah, no surprise there.
they can have that one. i found another even better and of course i won't say it here because don't want the babies to cry to mama and get it nerfed
I find such human behaviour really fascinating! Indeed, almost a 'Data Moment'.
So, given your Outlook on making profit, how does this work out in real life?
For example, how do you crack nuts open? Some ways are easier than others!
[video=youtube_share;gSaXncMGD7I]https://youtu.be/gSaXncMGD7I[/video]
You seem to believe that achieving something the hard way is somehow better because it is less efficient. Doing something efficiently does not detract from the reward of achieving that goal.
You can chop a pile of logs with an axe or with a pen knife, but the result is largely the same... A pile of chopped wood.
Economy of actions makes sense to me personally.
[video=youtube_share;7YyBtMxZgQs]https://youtu.be/7YyBtMxZgQs[/video]
I find such human behaviour really fascinating! Indeed, almost a 'Data Moment'.
So, given your Outlook on making profit, how does this work out in real life?
For example, how do you crack nuts open? Some ways are easier than others!
You seem to believe that achieving something the hard way is somehow better because it is less efficient. Doing something efficiently does not detract from the reward of achieving that goal.
You can chop a pile of logs with an axe or with a pen knife, but the result is largely the same... A pile of chopped wood.
Economy of actions makes sense to me personally.
How about walking up Ben Nevis versus arriving by helicopter?
Not that I disagree with you.
I disagree with you about what the base problem is.
The base problem IMHO is that there's no way for a liner to fill its seats without taking missions.
This is not a problem with commodities trading. You can grab an interesting mission that fills part of your hold with charger haulage, and then fill out your hold with whatever else you think will make a profit at your selected destination. But with passenger missions, the only way to use your capacity to its fullest is to get missions, and the only way to get the right missions is to manipulate the mission board
This can mean board hopping or flying from station to station. Either way the objective is to reset the passenger lounge, and the reason behind the objective is to fill your hull with paying fares.
The real solution to this problem is to provide another way to put fares in your seats without requiring the mission board. The mission board should be about special requests. The real meat and potatoes of passenger flying isn't charter missions for tourists, protestors and aid workers, it's the steady trickle of commuters looking to go where you're headed. "A steady fare from here to there." The current passenger board stuff should be a chance for extra profit around the edges of the REAL pax mechanic, which coesn't currently exist. The same way the mission board is for other professions.
IMHO Smeaton runs exposed a flaw in the passenger system as it currently exists. Until the board hopping put too much stress on the mission board servers the problem was more or less left alone. When it became popular, it put stress on the servers and FD had to react.
So therefore, the real problem with Smeaton runs was board hopping, and the real cause of board hopping is the unmet need to divorce pax from board based mission hub setup and give it its own emergent mechanic, similar to other professions. Given the choice 99.999% of pilots would rather fill their seats and go rather than sitting there cherry picking the best missions. Give us a mechanic that allows us to take on enough passengers to fill medium and large vessels without straining the mission board servers, and we won't strain the mission board servers -- just that simple guys.
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