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Newcomer / Intro Easiest way to get black market criteria for 'The Dweller.'
- Thread starter Darth Llama
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This is one of the Murphy's laws. I see black market EVERYWHERE. Then I need one. So I just visit some station. Nothing. Then another, nothing. Anarchy system, a pirate in the SC so I get out. "Okay, screw me, then, I'll check the map".
In case anyone needs the information, the way I did it was I just used https://eddb.io/station to find stations with a Black Market.
If you click on the station from the list, you can see it's current state. As long as the state isn't 'Lockdown' you should be good to go.
If you click on the station from the list, you can see it's current state. As long as the state isn't 'Lockdown' you should be good to go.
EDDB is definitely a great site, but it I'd still check the map to confirm the info before actually going there. Things can change relatively quickly in BGS and the EDDB takes a while to catch up with things, especially in the fringes with less traffic overall.
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Right, I think it is due to the fact that the existence of BM depends on the government type of owner faction. And owners change. I don't really use EDDB or any other third party tool, so I have no experience when comes to accuracy, but when I check in there, the "last updated" column spans from couple hours ago to couple weeks ago. So yeah. Pinch of salt and all that.
EDDB really just gives you a shortlist to check in the galaxy map. Roughly half (guess) of the blackmarkets that EDDB says are there are disabled.
The information is correct, you just don't like the answer.
As said before, EDDB pulls directly from the game.
Yes, checking the map gives you up to the very second review, but EDDB is still very reliable. If a Black Market is disabled, that information is updated on EDDB. There is always a possibility you will hit the 'the gap' between refresh when using 3rd party tools but some find the 3rd party tools easier then using the resources provided in game.
I was giving information of how I did it.. and I know it works because.. I did it.
Interesting, I just tried it comparing and the list is perfectly accurate.
Again though, no it's not 100% guaranteed.
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You didn't try hard enough.
EDDB is a useful tool, but it's not accurate at all as far as blackmarkets are concerned. At best it shows the possibility of a blackmarket.
I only use EDDB to find a blackmarket if I'm in Imp space, even though this is where it's least accurate. Otherwise it's far more reliable to filter Galmap for Fed or anarchy systems.
Bob Lighthouse
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I actually find that the galmap is fairly often incorrect about system state and eddb will have the correct info.
That is mindboggling as far as I'm concerned.
When there is a discrepancy and I see a recent update on eddb, I always defer to eddb.
I would not be surprised if the blackmarkets were represented in a similar fashion.
I do a lot of engineering so I'm frequently looking at system states.
How often do people look for blackmarkets?
For example: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/247474-Galaxy-Map-Conflict-State-Filter-Inaccuracies
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326235-Galaxy-map-not-updating
That is mindboggling as far as I'm concerned.
When there is a discrepancy and I see a recent update on eddb, I always defer to eddb.
I would not be surprised if the blackmarkets were represented in a similar fashion.
I do a lot of engineering so I'm frequently looking at system states.
How often do people look for blackmarkets?
For example: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/247474-Galaxy-Map-Conflict-State-Filter-Inaccuracies
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/326235-Galaxy-map-not-updating
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This is the solution I needed.Ok, so after following advice in this thread, I now have an Invitation from The Dweller.
Yes, Illicit Cargo does count, not just stolen.
I followed the above suggestion, I went to eddb and found the closest system to me that sold Imperial Slaves. I bought 5 of them (I just wanted access, wasn't so much trying to make money) and then I visited the 5 closest federal ports with Black Markets. I sold 1 slave at each port, and about 30 seconds after selling at the 5th port, I got the invitation.
It was pretty easy, only had to visit 3 total systems and it was fun boosting into stations to avoid scans. I went 5/5 with sneaking in so I just may have a future as a smuggler.
Thank you all for the help.
I unlocked The Dweller last night without having to smuggle anything or worrying about being scanned or doing silent running or carrying illicit cargo en route to the black markets.
These were the steps I took:
1. Using good old Inara, I located anarchy/independent systems a couple of dozen LY away from my home (Cupinook). The plan was to look for independent systems in order to look for cargo carrying missions-the independent factor was because I planned to eventually abandon the missions and not take a rep hit with the Feds or the Alliance (I am Allied with both of them and am Friendly with the Empire).
2. After locating an independent system with a couple other independent/anarchy systems nearby, I took my moderately engineered Cobra MK3 to the target region. Surely enough, I found a cargo carrying mission (carrying 6 units of biowaste) and accepted it.
3. I then went to the 5 different black markets in the area and sold one unit each. I did not cancel the mission before the sales because the black markets do accept mission delivery goods, so there is no need for the cargo to become stolen due to mission abandonment.
This step was very important because I could fly around the systems with the remaining mission cargo still being in good standing, so no worrying about the risk of being scanned and fined.
I also tried selling at the anarchy black markets and, yes, they also take illicit/mission goods).
After I was done with the deliveries (it is a good idea to log out and in after each black market transaction since I note that it does not immediately update), the invitation was in my mailbox.
4. After I got home, I just headed to Pomeche (right near Cupinook) to abandon the mission and pay the abandonment fine at the Interstellar Factor at the Drexler station.
The cost? Just a mission abandonment fine of around 8000 cr by the faction that gave me the mission-a faction I never plan on returning to anyway.
Again, note that I did not cancel the delivery mission until after I was done with selling the goods to the black markets. In this way the cargo never became stolen and I could fly without worrrying about being scanned.
I took the Cobra because it’s the fastest ship I own and has the most cargo capacity in my fleet, and wanted to have some defense against possible interdictions. During the whole process,I had 8 failed interdiction attempts against me by Alliance Chieftains, FAS, and others, with Master and above ranked NPC pilots. Had I been in my beloved FDL instead for this Dweller unlocking project, they would have involuntarily donated their engineering mats to me.
So, be also prepared to face interdictions.
Finally I headed to see him in the FDL (it has a 4A scoop so no problem), paid the 1/2 mil cr initiation fee, and in less than 12 minutes of imporoving the huge beam laser and the PD, I reached Grade 4...I just need those cracked firmware things.
Hope this helps.
These were the steps I took:
1. Using good old Inara, I located anarchy/independent systems a couple of dozen LY away from my home (Cupinook). The plan was to look for independent systems in order to look for cargo carrying missions-the independent factor was because I planned to eventually abandon the missions and not take a rep hit with the Feds or the Alliance (I am Allied with both of them and am Friendly with the Empire).
2. After locating an independent system with a couple other independent/anarchy systems nearby, I took my moderately engineered Cobra MK3 to the target region. Surely enough, I found a cargo carrying mission (carrying 6 units of biowaste) and accepted it.
3. I then went to the 5 different black markets in the area and sold one unit each. I did not cancel the mission before the sales because the black markets do accept mission delivery goods, so there is no need for the cargo to become stolen due to mission abandonment.
This step was very important because I could fly around the systems with the remaining mission cargo still being in good standing, so no worrying about the risk of being scanned and fined.
I also tried selling at the anarchy black markets and, yes, they also take illicit/mission goods).
After I was done with the deliveries (it is a good idea to log out and in after each black market transaction since I note that it does not immediately update), the invitation was in my mailbox.
4. After I got home, I just headed to Pomeche (right near Cupinook) to abandon the mission and pay the abandonment fine at the Interstellar Factor at the Drexler station.
The cost? Just a mission abandonment fine of around 8000 cr by the faction that gave me the mission-a faction I never plan on returning to anyway.
Again, note that I did not cancel the delivery mission until after I was done with selling the goods to the black markets. In this way the cargo never became stolen and I could fly without worrrying about being scanned.
I took the Cobra because it’s the fastest ship I own and has the most cargo capacity in my fleet, and wanted to have some defense against possible interdictions. During the whole process,I had 8 failed interdiction attempts against me by Alliance Chieftains, FAS, and others, with Master and above ranked NPC pilots. Had I been in my beloved FDL instead for this Dweller unlocking project, they would have involuntarily donated their engineering mats to me.
So, be also prepared to face interdictions.
Finally I headed to see him in the FDL (it has a 4A scoop so no problem), paid the 1/2 mil cr initiation fee, and in less than 12 minutes of imporoving the huge beam laser and the PD, I reached Grade 4...I just need those cracked firmware things.
Hope this helps.
Confirmed black markets in different station within one system is counted as different black markets for the engineer.
So we just need to steal mission cargo, and go to 1 system with many black market stations, then done
P.s. engineer black market count updated every 10 min, just like the mission respawn.
So we just need to steal mission cargo, and go to 1 system with many black market stations, then done
P.s. engineer black market count updated every 10 min, just like the mission respawn.
Bit of a necro post there.
I just grabbed a hauler, fitted a small cargo hold, bought slaves ( not imperial) and looked for outposts where they were illegal.
I just grabbed a hauler, fitted a small cargo hold, bought slaves ( not imperial) and looked for outposts where they were illegal.
I find 1) from above the easiest method, and if you are in an anarchy system you are not scanned at outposts. There may even be enough accessible black markets on outposts in the same system. just sell only a single item to each market. The items are not illegal themselves, just because they are owned by someone else they become illegal for you to have.
No trading slaves, can be something simple like biowaste or hydrogen fuel.
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CONFIRMED! no need to abort the mission before selling to blackmarket.
thx commander! o7
I inadvertently became a fugitive after shooting at a 'deserter' for a massacre mission, and things got hairy when my Corvette was scanned entering a hub, to pay the fine.
I had to light right out of that system, but it was Koli Discii, so I couldn't leave it at that. I tried the landing gear dodge, and it seemed successful, even on auto-dock. Just press 'L' when 'ship being scanned' appears, a couple more times for good luck, and landing is successful.
I assume this works just as well for smuggling, until they 'fix' it?
I had to light right out of that system, but it was Koli Discii, so I couldn't leave it at that. I tried the landing gear dodge, and it seemed successful, even on auto-dock. Just press 'L' when 'ship being scanned' appears, a couple more times for good luck, and landing is successful.
I assume this works just as well for smuggling, until they 'fix' it?
I just did it with Tobacco in Fed systems. Just sell 1 unit per market.
I have to say that 'L' didn't work the second time I tried it, and I had to make a panicked retreat out of the toaster.
More citation needed, I think.
More citation needed, I think.