Feeling concerned for the game.
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Every encounter with Thargoids was like that in 1984.
Blackcompany
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Exactly.
I dont get this. Gamers are so quick to excuse any issue a game has - no matter how show stopping, or how long the bug has been in the game - with that same old excuse: There are always bugs.
But you know, where I work, we roll out new software pretty regularly. And we use a very careful, ITIL based Change Management structure. Wherein we understand the INTENDED function of the new software very clearly, as well as its impact on other applications and our environment.
THEN we test it. Vet it. Thoroughly.
We do all this, so that bugs and issues are worked out BEFORE the software goes live. NOT after.
In short, the behavior these people are so quick to excuse, is only acceptable in gaming industry. Anywhere else, it gets people fired, or worse. Where I work it could, conceivably, get someone killed.
Blackcompany
Banned
No, the GAME has limited his choices FOR HIM. And its done the same to me.
See, some people have jobs, families and interests OUTSIDE of Elite. And for us, we dont have the option to spend countless hours driving around in an SRV, shooting stationary pillars and staring at little blue lights. To say nothing of the dozens of loading screens we have to sit through in order to get there.
By choosing to lock Thargoid content behind this sort of time gating, you make it unavailable to me. And to lots of others as well. Hence, I have no interest in it. And a drastically reduced interest in this non interactive dumpster fire of a loading screen sim, to be honest.
I will check back in six more months. See if perhaps someone at Frontier is capable of turning this collection of loading screens, RNG gambling and time gating into a halfway coherent game. Frankly, I dont hold out much hope, but thats ok; I have limited Hard Drive space, so, if Beyond doesnt do better going forward, I can always occupy it with fun games instead of Elite.
Nope, don't agree sorry. Got the same thing yesterday. In my ASP with an exploration fit out (unarmed). Dropped into a "non-human" USS and was immediately attacked by 4 Thargoid scouts. Hung around for a quick peek, then boosted and HW no problems. My take, I wanted to have a gander and was ready for what was waiting on the other side. Enjoyed the gameplay.
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Hmm, good call, you are right, kickstarter mentions multiplayer a fair bit but not MMO. And yes offline mode was quite a kick in the teeth. Personally I'd have preferred it if Elite was a solo game like the old ones but hey-ho here we are
I was going on the current advertising which heavily references MMO:
I mean the first sentence of the steam description is: Elite Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic
Same sentence albeit lower down on the Frontier store page, not sure about console advertisement tbh.
That being said I'd not exactly call Elite an MMO, sadly it drifts somewhat between RPG, Action Adventure, Arcade, Simulator, MMO and Nostalgia with elements of all of them and in many ways the game seems disjointed. On the other hand it's got broader appeal than it would otherwise have but also leads to more disappointment.
I'm definitely not saying the game is perfect, in fact there's plenty wrong with it at the moment, but in this instance I feel it's more user-error than design error.
Lol you clearly don't get it. Thargoid content in 5 minutes, join Open or Mobius, hit up with a wing of 4 Cobras or whatever small/medium ship and have at it. There's no time gate at all hence the problem that the OP got his butt kicked in an underpowered ship without a wing for backup. If there was a time-gate locking the content then he wouldn't have been able to get in there in the first place now would he?
OP has chosen to avoid PG/open and therefore limited his options in the same way he can't do PvP or PwP etc. The same way they can't join DW3303 or be rescued by the Fuel Rats or encounter Harry Potter. Its a choice the OP has made. I doubt there's a super-villain at Frontier with a maniacal laugh saying "this'll keep the noobs out" when they added Thargoids.
Lots of people want a challenge for their super engineered ships and their wings. Others want fish in a barrel. The game has both, stop trying to take the challenge away arguing it's content locking, it is not. It's content for someone that's not you right now. It's like me arguing collection limpets should be removed because I haven't got the internal slots in my sidewinder for them, they weren't implemented for the sidewinder so it's user error not game design error.
Some of the strong stuff is possible to solo with lots of time and the biggest ships/engineering yes. But it's equally accessible earlier if you choose to wing.
Ok byeee! See you next week when you quit again!
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I can agree with the assessment that the game should not attack you until you arrive...ticket that...but also realize just because you hadn't arrived on your side...you had arrived on the server side....definite problem with the game design, as per networking.
Thanks for the heads up...and people are duly warned of the bug. The game will certainly survive.
Thanks for the heads up...and people are duly warned of the bug. The game will certainly survive.
never say never
3 years and counting.
Still never had a problem. Seems every other time I play in Open I get caught in the "Blue Tunnel" at least once during the session.
If you ordered fish and chips, you should bug report it
That's a bug, nothing should attqack before you finish transitioning. Sounds like lag though to me.
Anyway, as for your other concern about them being too powerful.
Unless they changed them, in the Beta, I took out a threat 4 None human singnal source in my CVobra Mk 3, which wasn't espeically well kitted for combat. No shield cell banks or anything, plenty of none optimal internals, very mild engineering.
So, I wouldn't worry, I would wager you can handle threat 4's in small ships.
Anyway, as for your other concern about them being too powerful.
Unless they changed them, in the Beta, I took out a threat 4 None human singnal source in my CVobra Mk 3, which wasn't espeically well kitted for combat. No shield cell banks or anything, plenty of none optimal internals, very mild engineering.
So, I wouldn't worry, I would wager you can handle threat 4's in small ships.
I thought you could get scouts in smaller numbers (can't remember threat level) and that normal weapons were effective against scouts?:S
You can buy AX weapons right now without visiting the ruins, with the class 3 AX multicannons and a suitable ship you can hunt cyclops all day long. So yes, you can participate in thargoid content without grinding stuff. If you want guardian weapons, you need the materials, but you can have it in 2-3 hours, it´s not a big deal..... plus there are threat 3-4 with few scouts in it, perfectly manageable for a non enginereed ship with normal weapons, etc.
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Hmm, good call, you are right, kickstarter mentions multiplayer a fair bit but not MMO. And yes offline mode was quite a kick in the teeth. Personally I'd have preferred it if Elite was a solo game like the old ones but hey-ho here we are
I was going on the current advertising which heavily references MMO:
I mean the first sentence of the steam description is: Elite Dangerous is the definitive massively multiplayer space epic
Same sentence albeit lower down on the Frontier store page, not sure about console advertisement tbh.
That being said I'd not exactly call Elite an MMO, sadly it drifts somewhat between RPG, Action Adventure, Arcade, Simulator, MMO and Nostalgia with elements of all of them and in many ways the game seems disjointed. On the other hand it's got broader appeal than it would otherwise have but also leads to more disappointment.
I'm definitely not saying the game is perfect, in fact there's plenty wrong with it at the moment, but in this instance I feel it's more user-error than design error.
Lol you clearly don't get it. Thargoid content in 5 minutes, join Open or Mobius, hit up with a wing of 4 Cobras or whatever small/medium ship and have at it. There's no time gate at all hence the problem that the OP got his butt kicked in an underpowered ship without a wing for backup. If there was a time-gate locking the content then he wouldn't have been able to get in there in the first place now would he?
OP has chosen to avoid PG/open and therefore limited his options in the same way he can't do PvP or PwP etc. The same way they can't join DW3303 or be rescued by the Fuel Rats or encounter Harry Potter. Its a choice the OP has made. I doubt there's a super-villain at Frontier with a maniacal laugh saying "this'll keep the noobs out" when they added Thargoids.
Lots of people want a challenge for their super engineered ships and their wings. Others want fish in a barrel. The game has both, stop trying to take the challenge away arguing it's content locking, it is not. It's content for someone that's not you right now. It's like me arguing collection limpets should be removed because I haven't got the internal slots in my sidewinder for them, they weren't implemented for the sidewinder so it's user error not game design error.
Some of the strong stuff is possible to solo with lots of time and the biggest ships/engineering yes. But it's equally accessible earlier if you choose to wing.
Ok byeee! See you next week when you quit again!
gain, I'm playing solo, so there's no wings to join. I doubt I'm the only one. I'm not flying a ship incapable of defending itself. It's a Federal dropship. The shields, engines and such are engineered. It's a tough little ship. It has NO chance of winning ANY fight with ANY thargoid content.
Now, I'm not saying there shouldn't be content as difficult as I've seen so far... it's just that there's NOTHING ELSE. There needs to be something for everyone.
Imagine joining a football league. You go in expecting to have some fun against a tough opponent, but when you get there, your opponents are the Dallas Cowboys, who walk all over you. Your next match, you get on the field to find the opposition, the Buffalo Bills, have been playing for 20 minutes while you weren't on the field. You hope maybe you'll eventually face a team that you have a chance of competing with... but no, every team is WAY beyond you.
Now, would you enjoy playing in that league? Would you CONTINUE playing in it, and getting pulverized constantly? I rather doubt it.
I did play the original Elite, and did face Thargoids occsionally... and you know what, I was able to defend myself in my trading ship. I didn't HAVE to have ultramegasilly elite special weapons or equipment that precludes me doing ANYTHING else in the game but fighting Thargoids. Sure, we shouldn't be able to defeat them in a Sidewinder (maybe an exceptionally skilled pilot could...), but mine is a combat ship, with decent to good weapons and engineered defenses... and I had NO CHANCE.
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ou see, I'm not interested in putting magic weapons on my ship, I like the gear I'm using. That I have no choice but to use these special weapons (which are locked behind one or another grind) is part of the problem. They should HELP, but not be REQUIRED.
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Hey! The grinding was done by people like me in CGs, so you could enjoy AX weapons without grinding
So you just wanted a new enemy type that you could solo with current build/weapons?
If you write a buzzfeed style click bait title that SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the content of the thread, it’s likely that some will respond to the title. Next time, write a proper title.
Yes; this does appear to be one of the main problems around here. Either people can't express themselves properly or, if intentional, it's just click-baiting and trolling.
Particularly if it's not cooked to perfection. However, you may also be attacked by a wing of short-order chefs in the CZ (chef zone).
