You're imagination is truly baffling. Also, I agree.
Exploits are boring and they twist perception about game into something it's not
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You're imagination is truly baffling. Also, I agree.
I have to be totally honest, I truly don’t care if people use exploits to get rich quick in the game.
I personally don’t have a lot of credits, and I’ve not done any of these get rich quick schemes other than a few of the older ones just to see what they were like (I will admit the old Sothis smuggling runs were exciting!), but I play Elite to have fun, and if what I’m doing becomes boring then I change my playstyle or do something else. Whether or not other players have billions of credits really doesn’t have any noticeable impact on how I have fun with Elite. If a player wants the fast train to an A rated Cutter then I say go for it, enjoy yourself.
Whenever I do trading runs I’m essentially chasing the credits too. Sure it’s at a much slower profit rate than skimmer grinders, but the rate others make credits compared to mine isn’t something I worry about. There is no “profit rate competition” within the game, and everyone can play at their own pace and in their own style. I guess I just don’t see what all the negative fuss is about when people are having fun grinding lots of credits. I say let them if they enjoy it.
Honestly though I agree with Ant on this, the fact that exploits for credits are always so popular says less about people and more about how little playing the game normally pays out. I’d like to see much of the missions and activities pay more credits per hour, especially when allied with the mission givers. I’d also love to see mission boards improved to allow players to choose a mission type they are looking for BEFORE board generation, so players wouldn’t need to sift through 95% of the missions they don’t care about to find the 5% they do. This would greatly decrease board flipping while making it much more convenient for people to play the way they want to, rather than need to fight the mission boards all the time. Think of it like telling the mission givers what you do for a living and they then tell you what they have to offer. They might not have any missions for you, but at least then you’d know that upfront instead of needing to flip the boards for ten minutes to find out.
I personally don’t have a lot of credits, and I’ve not done any of these get rich quick schemes other than a few of the older ones just to see what they were like (I will admit the old Sothis smuggling runs were exciting!), but I play Elite to have fun, and if what I’m doing becomes boring then I change my playstyle or do something else. Whether or not other players have billions of credits really doesn’t have any noticeable impact on how I have fun with Elite. If a player wants the fast train to an A rated Cutter then I say go for it, enjoy yourself.
Whenever I do trading runs I’m essentially chasing the credits too. Sure it’s at a much slower profit rate than skimmer grinders, but the rate others make credits compared to mine isn’t something I worry about. There is no “profit rate competition” within the game, and everyone can play at their own pace and in their own style. I guess I just don’t see what all the negative fuss is about when people are having fun grinding lots of credits. I say let them if they enjoy it.
Honestly though I agree with Ant on this, the fact that exploits for credits are always so popular says less about people and more about how little playing the game normally pays out. I’d like to see much of the missions and activities pay more credits per hour, especially when allied with the mission givers. I’d also love to see mission boards improved to allow players to choose a mission type they are looking for BEFORE board generation, so players wouldn’t need to sift through 95% of the missions they don’t care about to find the 5% they do. This would greatly decrease board flipping while making it much more convenient for people to play the way they want to, rather than need to fight the mission boards all the time. Think of it like telling the mission givers what you do for a living and they then tell you what they have to offer. They might not have any missions for you, but at least then you’d know that upfront instead of needing to flip the boards for ten minutes to find out.
If you don't like it; Don't do it? Why stick your face in my game?
And truth be told; if fdev created engaging, rewarding and fun gameplay, we wouldn't need to resort to piling the credits in. But no, they make everything as difficult and long-winded as possible, leaving us frustrated and deflated at the effort we put in.
They've nerfed HazRez hunting by two thirds by making the KWS useless. So, I'm going to milk those skimmers dry
It doesn't effect you, so please; Play your own game not mine
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If there's no "fun engaging gameplay" then why the hell are you even playing? Dear god. Go smell some flowers or something.
I have a few things to add, which may have been touched on but (if I'm being honest) I can't be bothered to read every post.
The skimmer missions is the most lucrative grind I have seen since I started a year ago. I have done the passenger grind and the Quince one. I buffered my finances into the billions. That said, I would say these should not be in the game, but they don't have an engaging alternative. I would prefer these gold mines we're removed because unless you're playing solo, it affects your game. If you get blasted by a griefer and die while doing some legitimate business, that can be pretty frustrating. What's worse is fighting the same dude and killing him 10 times to see him come back again with practically no influence on his wallet because he did these grinds for a few hours. That sucks and that's why I disapprove of these generally.
That said, yes I am using it and I always go for money last. My first two priorities are materials and then fed rep. If I can't get good payouts for that, then money is my fallback. My goals in game are to pvp in a defensive role, exploration and owning, outfitting and engineering every ship in unique and fun roles. I would prefer another option, but I'm lazy and restricted on time.
The skimmer missions is the most lucrative grind I have seen since I started a year ago. I have done the passenger grind and the Quince one. I buffered my finances into the billions. That said, I would say these should not be in the game, but they don't have an engaging alternative. I would prefer these gold mines we're removed because unless you're playing solo, it affects your game. If you get blasted by a griefer and die while doing some legitimate business, that can be pretty frustrating. What's worse is fighting the same dude and killing him 10 times to see him come back again with practically no influence on his wallet because he did these grinds for a few hours. That sucks and that's why I disapprove of these generally.
That said, yes I am using it and I always go for money last. My first two priorities are materials and then fed rep. If I can't get good payouts for that, then money is my fallback. My goals in game are to pvp in a defensive role, exploration and owning, outfitting and engineering every ship in unique and fun roles. I would prefer another option, but I'm lazy and restricted on time.
Well now it's ended I'm off to the starter systems in a Cutter to intimidate new players into fitting a cargo rack and limpet controller to collect Palladium from me.
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#spreadthelovebyforce
I'd agree with you if all skimmer missions were trivial, but they aren't. You have to go hunting for first a system which spawns large numbers of these missions to ONE specific target, AND that the stated target is a nosec base that isn't owned by a fraction aligned with the same superpower you are aligning with at the time.
The rest of the time (when you can't stack 20 to the same destination, and the bases have security), they are fine, if paying a tad high.
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in which case the problem is with the infinite number of them....... the whole point of the high paying gold rushes according to FD is burn bright but burn short NOT post online and farm for months.
so, to work as intended somewhere in the BGS it would need to decide that once a system has reached the correct states for the potential of these missions, for it to spawn 10 of them (for instance) and once those 10 are completed then it needs to automatically dial back and then spit the missions out in a more sensible manner.
that way, if you used your skills the read the BGS and you get lucky enough to find a faction wanting X number of skimmers taking out, so desperately they will pay the earth then you will be pretty precious over them as they will burn out quickly.
I do not think it is selfish to want to have goldrushes that actually need some skill about, and wanting to feel a rush on finding one, and feeling sick when you see another player ship in the area doing them (or even if you dont see another player, seeing the gold rush end after only managing 1 run because others found it too..... )
if you want a farmable way to help new players get a foot in the door there are the wing missions, but the actual gold rushes are meant to be quite a selfish thing, and that is from DBs mouth himself.
arguably that is what happened here... albeit it took manual intervention and it has temporarily fudged all the skimmer missions and not just the few over paying.
First, those numbers count repeated visits, second, it was same people who grinded passengers.
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Another day another forum crusade telling players they having fun wrong...and then claiming thats really not what they doing...when actually thats exactly what the thread is doing from page one onwards ^
Tomorrow itll be some other game breaking reason nobody actually cares about until they see it in black and white on the forum...cool something to moan about while in between episodes on netflicks ^
Exactly my point ! But it seems you didn t understand what i meant.
You should be honoured. A blackcompany post without RANDOM words spelled all in capitals SCATTERED through it for absolutely no APPARENT reason.
The likely reason is that it's a troll post designed to attract attention... But then, it's a troll post by the guy who says he loves this game and then commences to tell us why it's so bad. If you read enough of his posts you will realize the he's hated and love the same things from time to time. Sorta like "I was for this, right before I was against this!" But then being a troll is never about consistency, unless you count the volume of whine...
OP you're boring. Exploit is a very misused term in this day and age, I'd ask you to elaborate but it's unlikely I'd see your reply. If it makes you feel at peace, forget that other people play the game and you won't be jealous of their wealth, which seems to be the prevalent issue regarding skimmer missions, etc.
I didn't say anything about players having fun. Fun is subjective and my opinions are too. What I said that I find exploits boring and eventually damaging, despite it might be entertaining for some.
Another likely reason IS a very inflated sense OF self importance.
No, don't you see? He's a visionary! If they would just let him design the game it would be so perfect... For him. [yesnod]
Ewwwww!!!! [ugh]
You are mixing opinion with someone you construe as a fact but is actually baseless. Opinion >
And so what? That's a problem for you. This doesn't make it a problem for the community. Baseless >
In reality you don't develop the game nor do you know developers intent, therefore you cannot make this statement. Therefore your "white knighting" here is nothing but a ploy to unite with the 20 other "hardcore" players that care about things like "sanctity of the game", of which Frontier obviously doesn't care about to the extent that you do.
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