You're right about the preferences thing. Not everyone will like ED, not everyone will like SC. What turns *me* off is the fact that everyone's quick to find excuses for the current state of SC, while giving ED a hard time.
"Oh it's just late because it's so amazing"
"AC was rushed because we the fans were so impatient"
"SC is not late, it's just so complex and vast that it takes a long time"
etc.
Over two months after the first release of AC and we're still getting more promises, more ship sales, more stuff you can spend your money on and there's very little in terms of tangible, real game updates.
And no, promises, sketches and renders don't count.
I don't think people give ED a hard time? I think what people expect from a beta product might effect on how they review Elite though. Elite is far in development and that's why people can sit and properly discuss it more well just because it's close to release.
While SC has it's mini flying module for 2,5 months now and that is just a tiny and incomplete piece of what they are planning to do. Would people sit down and discuss the first combat missions of ED and be like yea that's it ED is like this! or ED is like that! No. I refrained from making judgements on the combat scenarios and waited for at least 5-8 hours of Beta gameplay to make my opinion of ED.
AC right now is like the first combat scenario missions of ED. It's simple and not there yet. That could be why some people could get defensive when people go at it. Well just because judging a book by it's cover is not good. That being said though a cover could give you a hint of the book. If that hint is fully representative or not of the content? That's luck.
Over two months after the first release of AC and we're still getting more promises, more ship sales, more stuff you can spend your money on and there's very little in terms of tangible, real game updates.
We will get more and more promises until release and even after. That's one thing that won't change unless this project goes down. Now since June 2013 and on we knew that every ship will have a sale so it's no surprise really. And as discussed several pages ago they need constant income so they don't burn out of money next year and cover up their expenses.
It all comes in time. In June we had nobody in Multiplayer for example now we have everyone in. The rubberbanding is fixed and the multiplayer netcode is running smoothly. Before that we had 4 updates with a lot of fixes and improvements to the game. Now I know everyone wants ONE BIG UPDATE to fix everything but that's not going to happen.
Their main priority for the past 2 months was stability,netcode optimization and balancing with a few sound passes. If I was leading this project I would do the same because you can't jump content without a proper base code to support it. I would never release content when my MP was broken or when a quarter of my players were crashing due to hardware incompabilities. It doesn't make sense.
But now is kind of the time. In the last patch we had the first Cockpit alerts integrated to the Hornet for example. We will see more of this stuff coming up. I expect a lot of content driven patches in the next months. But it's no surprise they are concentrating on fixing stuff after releasing a module. That's how game development should work.
Yes, and we came to different conclusions:
a) Your conclusion is that it's fine to advertise SC here in order to support them in making more and more money because you believe in better results.
b) Others came to the conclusion that it's not sure at all whether SC will become better (or the 'BDSSE' Around the Verse are implying again) with more and more money, therefore
WARNING the ED community not to jump too easily into a promise that could easily turn out to be a pure
money sunk!
And this debate will go on as long as others will continue to advertise here to throw more and more money to CIG!
So talking about SC in an SC thread is advertising? Let's take the Elite Dangerous thread off the SC forums then? No. Because that's mental. I want proper info from ED in the SC forums and the same vice versa. Why can't you accept that having info on both games is something good and not bad?
I have no interest in making people back the game except for my friends who are interested in the space genre and I always tell them to check out Elite, Limit Theory and the other games while doing so to keep them objective.
If you know even the tiniest thing about running a business you would understand why Star Citizen needs sales to balance their burn out rate. But I guess oh my god how can they makes no sense right? If sales stop by next year there is no CIG anymore. If they go on until release there is CIG even 1 year after release.