Neither did I, but my point is that you can't really use the argument that a bug or exploit should or shouldn't be fixed because it only affects a subset of players.
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Sure, it's fun.
I was just picking up on Mengy's "People were having fun with the skimmer missions." comment.
As I say skimmers are still in game, go bombard them over and over and over then suicide and repeat for much fun.
I was just pointing out that actually the fun really was in "gold rush" aspect.
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You just earned my respect for not jumping on the nerfwagon
bugs or exploits are only a problem if people make it a problem... i'm sure there are loads of bugs and exploits that aren't worth fixing. it's only serious when it goes out like a virus
Would a screenshot of an Exploding Skimmer be too close to the bone ye think?
A screenshot of an exploding skimmer coming out of an asteroid that's being mined. Yes please!
technically folks were supposed to be earning it as it WAS in the game. If it wasn't supposed to be there it wouldn't have
C'mon dude, it was literally an order of magnitude above normal earning potential.
It was clearly a significant outlier.
To claim it was just removed as a PR stunt is a bit silly, Frontier obviously have an expected upper and lower range for earnings, as every single game company ever would have.
Or just don't award mining commodities for mining missions.
They used to be able to track which commodities you actually mined yourself. This was used during CGs that specifically requested mined palladium to ensure you didn't just buy it and truck it in.
Aye. Or I want Prismatic Bubblewrap mod on my ship.
In a way I smile. I grew up on Frontier Elite. Man - those bugs! The Cemiess bug where you get paid to take diamonds away. The wormhole bug where you can jump over 500ly in one go. The dropping rubbish bug where you can create unlimited capacity. My favourite: selling your ship with a passenger on board, thereby earning squillions.
Bugs and exploits are the Braben way. Embrace them, I say. Even though I've had to input the keybindings FOR THE FOURTH DAY IN A ROW, it's part of that je ne sais quoi that makes Elite what it is: a supermodel wife with the depth of a puddle.
Accept and (nicely) exploit. It is what it is.
That's complete trash-talk from someone who know's nothing about MMO Raiding. Raiding on games like WoW and Everquest were serious business. For example I put 10 years into Everquest.. Raided 3 times a week and spent the rest of the time getting back experience due to lost levels etc, in time for the next raid. Our guild was ranked #2 Server Wide, and my Warrior was ranked #24 worldwide. You get nothing for nothing in high end raiding, so please, don't try to make out something you have no idea about.
For sure, there are players in all game genres that want the free ride, easy money. But I don't see that in Elite. What I see is players asking for fair reward for fair commitment. What we get is drab rewards/ If you got off your FDev praising knees and looked at the game and players you'd see that in the main, all players want is freedom like the game promises, and fairness. That's not what we get however. What we get is 'play it our way' for peanuts.
Have you any High End Raiding experience in MMOs at all?
Not saying it wasn't fun.
For fear or repeating myself (like doing the skimmer mission) I'm saying the "fun" often cited in this thread that Frontier apparently "ruined", the "fun" that apparently caused a whole bunch of CMDRs to participate, wasn't because suddenly everyone loves the experience of shooting skimmers.
It's was literally the gold rush aspect of it all.
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You're really extracting the urine friend.
The ONLY two things I've done in-game for the past year, skimmer missions and mining missions. (and no, I do not use the exploits as I see it as cheating)
Now both are gone. Crazy but I have no reason to play until at least one of these returns. I'm not sure who to blame most, FD or the exploiting lowlife that ruin the game for the rest of us.
Why the suicide bit? Why not return to Base like I always did?
It's your opinion that the fun really was in the gold rush bit. I will continue to zap skimmers when I feel like it.
If something is not working as intended and can be easily disabled as missions, devs should do it. And I understand pew pewing skimmers is fun, I have done it myself as part of planetary missions and they certainly add nice flavour to gameplay. But those corner cases were totally broken in regarding of effort vs. reward, they had to go. So if that meant to take whole mission branch down and figure out how to do it properly - why not.
If FD would be concerned with preserving grind they would have removed profits. They decided not to do that. They seem to be concerned more about perception such exploits give to players, not about is it fun or not. Fun is relative. As I wrote lot of players just want to trash their high engineered Anaconda at least three times a evening. No wonder they gain so much expenses that can't be covered by normal gameplay. But calling it a grind is really nonsense. They play game wrong. That's it. There's nothing to add or dismiss. If let's say in single player game Doom I run into room full of deamons and stand there quoting Shakespeare - it just not gonna work. I will be eaten alive. Expecting game to respect your completely different gameplay because it is open world game really doesn't work - open world games still are governed by rules which players should abide.
Suicide allowed to min max it even more.
that's not saying much. e.g. twitter, with millions of users: take it entirely down and you have not much more than a pr problem for a few days, a couple of headlines for a week, a spike in the stock market. dump 100.000 arbitrary tweets to dev/null and hardly anybody will notice. dump a million and you just created a new garbage news item on aggregator sites. try to screw a few transactions in banking, insurance, retail or any critical infrastructure for real fun.
of course this is a game. and frontier's qa is dismal. more than average. big deal? not at all, unless you are concerned with work ethics. it's not really about the consequences, but about rampant fanboyism and people clapping with their ears every time frontier farts another botched release. just for the fun.
personally i couldn't care a bit. i love the game. but i didn't install the beta, i didn't log on to 3.0 yet. i'll wait the weeks or months it usually takes until the crap settles. there's fun enough on the forum!
They will be back soon enough, in few weeks.
How's about you stop using the term 'exploiting lowlife' and get some perspective? That's twice you've used that phrase now.
haha yeah...... well I found this old screenshot from 2016
even back then I had accrued 22.7 schmoley crakers
I'm crap at shooting things, suck at kablooey, but love a bit of the ol' woolagoola. Everyone blazes their own trail. It's in the title, and i find it sad when people tell me I'm playing the game wrong. If I'm playing it wrong, I'm playing it wrong, happy!
That the testing was inadequate for example?
I think at this point they should just give every player 900B at the start of the game to make up for the years of exploits that everyone has gotten. To hell with the grind, I wont mind killing a Noobaconda in my sidewinder just for laughs.
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Lol saddo!
(I gave up when `/playtime` reached triple figures in days)
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