FDL horrid cockpit

It's initially a little jarring, but for me it's not an issue.

Perhaps using a headtracking device will alleviate the issue - I use FreePIE on my smartphone with Opentrack, and found that I basically didn't notice the bars at all after a while.
 
Those two window dividers that come down are not symmetrical.
The math and art is flawed and anyone who allowed that to go into production should be fired.

For the love of god fix it.
Its not because your sitting right of center.They are just off.
 
It's initially a little jarring, but for me it's not an issue.

Perhaps using a headtracking device will alleviate the issue - I use FreePIE on my smartphone with Opentrack, and found that I basically didn't notice the bars at all after a while.

I will certanly try that, and not just for FDL. Thanks for showing me this option.
But without VR or head tracking this ships' cockpit is simply unbearable for me
 
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*grumpily sitting here* ...am I the only one that LIKES the cockpit? It feels more real to me. Those bars are there to strengthen the glass! ITS A COMBAT SHIP! [mad] Performance before beauty!
 
I am feeling that this cockpit is made as a balancing factor to this ship.

I've flown FDL for 2 days and I like its hardpoints, the fact that it is the only medium shield tank ship (Python is not a medium ship), the speed, the flying style.

But...

This cockpit is wrong on so many levels. Flying this ship makes me feel like I've suffered Joker's pencil trick not a while ago (it's not lethal, google it).

Jokes aside, I've might have come up with an explanation of why this ship is cockpit-locked for some people.
My lead eye is the left one, and because of that, my right eye moves according to it. Left eye doesn't meet any obstacles in its field of view, but right one gets blocked by this right beam too much, thus causing subliminal discomfort. I'm no expert though.

I couldn't even figure if fight vector is parallel to the forward view.
This becomes even worse with any FoV setting other than the default, as canopy beams structure highlights unnatural view cone very clearly.
I really couldn't get used to it. All I've achieved by trying to is worsened right eye sight for a couple of days.

Of all vehicles I've ever been inside of, this ship's cockpit is first for me to cause such issues. I have no problems flying Python, Clipper, Cutter, Cobra and even Adder.

And I've read about many more CMDRs describing similar impressions. I'm not trying to dramatize anything, but if you feel that best PvP ship in the game being literally unusable by a lot of people is not a big deal, I do not agree.


Also, I might add that when I flip screenshot with cockpit horizontally, it stills looks weird but does not cause any uncomfortable sensations.

Either alternative cockpit layouts or alternative to FDL copycat spinoff Alliance ship same as Chieftain for FAS should be added to the game.


I have no problems with the FDL at all.
But I have my mouse cursor activated in settings, which helps enormously.
 
*grumpily sitting here* ...am I the only one that LIKES the cockpit? It feels more real to me. Those bars are there to strengthen the glass! ITS A COMBAT SHIP! [mad] Performance before beauty!

Please read the op.
Also I fail to understand how leisure yacht seat coupled with rudimentary WW2 counter fighter canopy, the one which is better suited for centerline pilot placement at that, adds to combat performance.
 
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I had an FDL. The cockpit is super weird but you can get used to it with time. Took me a bit.
But they Python IS a medium ship. It goes on a medium pad. The Python is only 6 meters longer and wider than the FDL, with essentially the same height. When we’re talking about ships that are nearly 100 meters long, that’s not all that massive a difference. Noticeable to be sure, but not massive.
By comparison a large ship like thof Conda, is more than 50% longer than either of those, and more than twice as tall.
 
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I had an FDL. The cockpit is super weird but you can get used to it with time. Took me a bit.
But they Python IS a medium ship. It goes on a medium pad. The Python is only 6 meters longer and wider than the FDL, with essentially the same height. When we’re talking about ships that are nearly 100 meters long, that’s not all that massive a difference. Noticeable to be sure, but not massive.
By comparison a large ship like thof Conda, is more than 50% longer than either of those, and more than twice as tall.
And, hilariously enough, the conda only has 40 ton on the base hull mass of the python... stretching that much metal around that high a volume... repairs should be cheap as hell, unless popsicle sticks and aluminum foil are banned...
 
1. I did read.
2. Its personal preference.
3. I like the cockpit looking like that because it feels somewhat like a joke. They tried to make a combat ship for wealthy that go bounty hunting for fun. So they added in a yatch cockpit missed with a fighter cockpit because they didn't know what to do.
 
Turn on the mouse widget and offcentre cockpits become a lot less irritating.

I'd buy different cockpit layouts from the store.
 
I had an FDL. The cockpit is super weird but you can get used to it with time. Took me a bit.
But they Python IS a medium ship. It goes on a medium pad. The Python is only 6 meters longer and wider than the FDL, with essentially the same height. When we’re talking about ships that are nearly 100 meters long, that’s not all that massive a difference. Noticeable to be sure, but not massive.
By comparison, a large ship like thof Conda, is more than 50% longer than either of those, and more than twice as tall.

After all the nerfs, Python could be flown only like big ships do (by flying backwards and trading hits). Opposite from Clipper, which is flown like a medium ship. And it's just that I had read somewhere that Python is counted as a big ship by some internal in-game parameters, but I can't find that info atm somehow.

My point is that FDL while being best PVP ship, and having no alternatives with similar characteristics, being impossible to fly for some people is not ok.
 
Turn on the mouse widget and offcentre cockpits become a lot less irritating.

I'd buy different cockpit layouts from the store.

I fly with KB+M atm, my cheap HOTAS have too much deadzones to it to aim with fixed weapons, especially with FA OFF sometimes.

And yes, alternative cockpits' implementation is the one of solutions. Dont care if I have to pay or not (unless they will cost 50$ or something). Saying that it becomes a P2W aspect is agreeing on the fact that the current cockpit is not good.

And btw, quite alot of ships could use some alternative cockpits (like without wires sticking out like this ship was stolen to be sold to you for 140 mil base cost :)).
 
And, hilariously enough, the conda only has 40 ton on the base hull mass of the python... stretching that much metal around that high a volume... repairs should be cheap as hell, unless popsicle sticks and aluminum foil are banned...

Lol! It’s true tho. Someone did the math once and figured out just how unbelievably light the conda is for it’s size. According to them anyway, if you pumped the air out of it the Coda would float in the earths atmosphere like a boat lol.
 
The cockpit asymmetry takes some getting used to. I know I felt like I was sitting on the starboard wing every time I flew for about the first week. Now I don't notice it at all.
 
I fly with KB+M atm, my cheap HOTAS have too much deadzones to it to aim with fixed weapons, especially with FA OFF sometimes.

And yes, alternative cockpits' implementation is the one of solutions. Dont care if I have to pay or not (unless they will cost 50$ or something). Saying that it becomes a P2W aspect is agreeing on the fact that the current cockpit is not good.

And btw, quite alot of ships could use some alternative cockpits (like without wires sticking out like this ship was stolen to be sold to you for 140 mil base cost :)).

I like the look of the FDL, but the offcentre cockpit struts throw my sense of direction off when I'm flying with hardpoints retracted so I crash into things like the letterbox. I'm the same in all the offcentre ships, but the FDL is the only one I consider putting up with it for.

Left right or centre seat via the store for the same price as whatever the cockpit decorations cost could be the way. Or an engineering option with seat placement and transparent bubble canopies (better visuals but less robust) on offer.
 
I hate the off center FDL cockpit, and it's one of the reasons I don't fly it.

I'd rather be seated centrally, with the copilot behind or infront, or off center (I don't care, why does the FDL need a copilot anyway?)

All the other off center cockpits don't bother me, just the FDL.

There's an option to put a dot in your HUD . You will forget about the lack of simetry in time
 
There's an option to put a dot in your HUD . You will forget about the lack of simetry in time

Same person you recommended enabling mouse widget recommended me to do so five posts above [haha].
Thing is, it doesn't rly help.

The cockpit of this ship is simply incompatible with some peoples' physiology. That with this ship having no direct alternatives is an issue.
 
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Please read the op.
Also I fail to understand how leisure yacht seat coupled with rudimentary WW2 counter fighter canopy, the one which is better suited for centerline pilot placement at that, adds to combat performance.

By FD lore, the FDL was designed as a leisure yacht, and only afterwards modified for bounty hunting. It was not "meant to be" a "combat ship"... by lore. If you buy into that. So, scratch all the "fighter plane" stuff as the ship was not designed as such.

After all the nerfs, Python could be flown only like big ships do (by flying backwards and trading hits). Opposite from Clipper, which is flown like a medium ship. And it's just that I had read somewhere that Python is counted as a big ship by some internal in-game parameters, but I can't find that info atm somehow.

My point is that FDL while being best PVP ship, and having no alternatives with similar characteristics, being impossible to fly for some people is not ok.

I cannot believe that the support structure of the canopy renders the ship impossible for anyone to fly. Annoying to some? Probably. Impossible to operate? That's a long stretch... You do realize, every ship has a canopy support structure yeah? How do you deal with the others?
 
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