I think I already did in the person I quoted.
Both exploits, both bad for the game. So I'm hesitant to add another.
.......... The point is "some Open only content oh and some other stuff as well" would be a wedge to split the playerbase. Once the wedge is inserted, then would follow the enticement to players into open and et voilà PvP players get some "content".........
If you read OP without any predisposition then you would realise there is zero ploying here. I made it utterly, utterly clear it would be about giving PG/Solo relevant content too.
I am asking why game modes should not have dedicated content, not why Open shouldn't - i.e. advocating improvements that would make all game modes more attractive.
If the best you can do in response is complain that I am trying to dump on PG/Solo or improve Open only and consequently try drag the thread under, then I don't see why you expect civility.
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I know what you're doing, but...not my problem.
I have never advocated Open only benefits, and I have never advocated the removal of PvE.
If you can't see a thread asking for a some loving all round without believing there's a conspiracy going on, then that really is your problem. If I want to try find some common ground, or understand why players aren't interested in finding some common ground, that is one hundred per cent my right.
The only things I am attacking are responses deliberately ignoring OP in favour of stirring the water because I dared mention even equality towards PvP. But yeah, it's definitely me that's not the community guy
Trust me, I've raised parody/mocking/noise making threads before, and it was pretty damn obvious. I'd be disappointed if this were my attempt at subterfuge. And I will always be honest about my sentiment towards someone - if you're being a prat, I'll call you a prat, instead of invading their threads "politely" saying that OP cannot be legitimate and we should all burn them at the cross for "subterfuge".
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Then we shall have to agree to disagree. ciao
EDIT - I have edited (my own choice) my posts to remove the more "I suspect" stuff - just leaving my disagreement with the idea.
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To be clear I am not advocating this - it can all feed into the same BGS.
On a really, really basic level it could be something like CZs in Open that don't appear in PG/Solo, and drives a competition between two factions, and likewise PG/Solo only have a BGS activity for a similar pair of warring factions.
Very simple example using no new content, but you get what I mean. It's additional pieces of content for either, not splitting affairs in any way. I do believe splitting the BGS would be "ideal" in my eyes, but I acknowledge it will never happen and ultimately is not right for this game.
Especially when those players admit to not even playing PP/BGS, or exhibit such a poor understanding of the mechanics that you reach a similar conclusion.
I use multi-crew for being lazy.
When I want to earn, but not actually play - I jump in my mates T9 (he has no turrets or SLF, so nothing for me to do).
I earn while he plays. I tend to watch Netflix or read/post on the forums.
Yes, I earn credits while I'm posting here - how cheeky am I
So Multi-crew is great content, for the lazy
I'd suggest adding a PG search feature to the main menu if this were implemented, otherwise, +1
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How is that any different than what we have now? CZs in Open would remain essentially NPC combat farming, with the potential for PvP to be added to the mix, to destroy whatever combat bonds the other player may have accumulated.
Or are you talking about special “Open Only” CZs that give special 4X bonuses to the results of NPC combat farming? If that’s the case, we’re once again into the realm of trying to bribe players who don’t enjoy PvP into Open.
Quite frankly, every time I see a proposal like that, I translate it as, “Hi! I’m pathetic at PvP, but I want to pretend I’m not. But those Open Only players simply won’t sit still long enough for me to kill them. Even someone like Inga Stevenson tried to ram my ship to death after she submitted after my 3rd interdiction attempt. I know she ignored my last two, but that was completely uncalled for. I wasn’t expecting her to be going in reverse with full pips to shields.
”Please, Frontier, bribe some PvEers into Open, so I can indulge in my power fantasies. The current Open population keeps laughing at me.”
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Darkfyre99 again.
*smacks the virtual rep button a few more times.
If only you wern't an Empire Shill...
I use multi-crew for being lazy.
When I want to earn, but not actually play - I jump in my mates T9 (he has no turrets or SLF, so nothing for me to do).
I earn while he plays. I tend to watch Netflix or read/post on the forums.
Yes, I earn credits while I'm posting here - how cheeky am I
So Multi-crew is great content, for the lazy
It was mentioned I think by Rinzler that in PvP, it's the multi-crew member's job "to sit there throwing smack insults".
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the result of an entire major update release
...done yet sweetheart?
Yes, I am advocating the above - though said "content" could be more developed than a simple CZ.
What I am also advocating is then some content for Solo/PG players only.
I.e., as was stated in OP, content for both to simply recognise that perhaps creating equal content for Open/PG is not actually the way forward.
Quite frankly, every time I see an attempt at finding common ground for players by a PvP player, it ends up with PvE players yelling about them nasty griffers and playing the part of pigeon on a chess board.
Don't witch hunts get boring after a while?
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Oh can you even try to imagine what that would do to the forums? It would be sweet. And salty.
Good idea I doubt the 5 people and a dog participating in PP would mind.
Wait, aren't you one of the people saying make PP open only? Purportedly to bring people to open so they can be opposed directly?
Sure, make it OPEN only or just take it away completely.
Why no mode exclusive content? It's not needed. All modes of play are equal. Not terribly hard to understand.
Preparing special stuffs for any of the modes will only serve to worsen the divide, and open the door for 'more for open', 'make BGS/PP open only', and other such nonsense. People make too much of the modes. Play how you want, and let everyone else play the way they want. That's the simplest, most complete fix to all of these issue. Just play the game.
"mode exlusive content', in this particular subforum, has meant in the past 'Open only, because that's where the game is meant to be played'.
On top of this...people need to remember that there are no modes.
Only people's choices to who they see in their play time in the singular galaxy we all play together in.
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