ED - A Script Kiddie's Wet Dream

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VA macros replace a few manual keystrokes or allows having some bindings tied to voice and not buttons. There is no 'image recognition', automatic playing the game in there.

Your brain is powerful enough to understand that a macro to purchase something every 30 minutes is not an 'alternate keybinding' like saying: request docking'..


What you say is true; However, once macros are allowed, there is a very fuzzy line between 'oh thats a legal macro' and 'that one isn't' - I can think of heaps of things to automate without any screen recognition. VA automates jumping, power to idle and honk. That is apparently acceptable. There is no list anywhere to say what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, for use in macros. VA for example, monitors the logs to see when you have arrived at a destination, so it can send keys to the client to perform the honk. Is it ok for me to write something that monitors the logs and send keys to do something else?

VA uses time calculation to do particular things. And that's acceptable. So... me writing something that waits 30 minutes and then sends keystrokes to buy goods should also be acceptable.

Obviously that's stretching the limits; How-ever; the point is; Whereis the delineation between 'acceptable' and 'not acceptable'?

I'm no way saying VA should be banned from use or anything like that; What I am saying is; Like in my previous reply; FDev as the game developer, really need to specify to us; and indeed, to themselves, what is and what is not allowed. And again like previously; They need to target and watch their assets. (not saying they're not already doing that).
 
And this board disdains the docking computer....but uses Voice Attack to automate things.

Why should bots be such a shock?
 
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Finally, I saw someone mention to add more difficulty to interdiction avoidance.

The suspected bots we've observed have logged out (force quitting) the moment anything untowards happened to them. Scan? Log. Attack? Log. Interdict? Log. Interdictions wouldn't affect them as they'd simply relog. Even if they have to start from the arrival point, it's not a problem for them, if they are automated - it's not tedious to automation and it doesn't get annoying.
 
It can't be linked here due to forum rules. Even discussing it may be an issue, depending on how far the discussion goes.

Just search for Elite Dangerous Script Bot and you will see all the evidence, including videos.

I did and this is the first thing I found:

Bot to auto-farm credits
Edit: not working anymore. Don't lose time with this.


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Would there be any interest if I drop an old bot I made to exploit the game and earn 150m-3bil daily. Only valid until 2.3 lands.

I didn't bother looking any further.
 
The suspected bots we've observed have logged out (force quitting) the moment anything untowards happened to them. Scan? Log. Attack? Log. Interdict? Log. Interdictions wouldn't affect them as they'd simply relog. Even if they have to start from the arrival point, it's not a problem for them, if they are automated - it's not tedious to automation and it doesn't get annoying.
However, if the interdiction chance was "basically guaranteed", they'd end up constantly getting interdicted, quitting, relogging, returning to supercruise, etc. ... and eventually run out of fuel and explode, because the game wouldn't get bored of doing it either.

Whereas a human player could evade the interdiction, kill the attacking ship, etc. and be on their way. It would require an increase to >1/system of the average interdiction rate, though, which might be regarded as too high a cost.
 
It looks like the bots we saw would be restarting their game client a lot more often than, more regularly, over a longer period than any normal CMDR. I mean, you'd expect them to get scanned every time they used the docking computer at a starport.
 
For those interested in seeing the evidence we collected over the months, please check out the below with BLURRED OUT NAMES (plz no ban hammer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZd-KwxLCbA&t=1s

We have more names of known bots and suspected bots exhibiting this behavior that we were unable to collate sufficient and definitive evidence on.

The attacks continue on us.

Worst blurring of Cmdr names I've seen. You might want to touch up that video.

You should have got a Bot to do the blurring for you, it would have done a better job [yesnod]
 
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Look at this from the dev point of view; How can they detect an auto-pilot?

It's not even necessarily Frontiers detection methods I want improved, I want players detection methods improved.

These bots were detected not through number on influence, data on routines or anything else of the sort, it was discovered through observation of flight patterns. any script can make numbers look like a human input them but no script that doesn't use client manipulation can make a ship look like it's flown as a human.

I don't think open only is the answer though. I would advocate for more tools for people to see whos doing what in what system, station ect. see whos contributing the most to influence or power play preps.

More importantly a overhaul of BGS and powerplay mechanics is needed to prevent overworking players to be able to contribute so much to both mechanics, or be so damaging.

Also there are some I've seen in the comments questioning whether this actually effects BGS significantly.

The answer is yes.


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Worst blurring of Cmdr names I've seen. You might want to touch up that video.

You should have got a Bot to do the blurring for you, it would have done a better job [yesnod]

If you want me to give you the original to blur out yourself just PM me.
 
It's very entertaining to watch this thread. Especially the discussion about automated scripts.
I tried to build a robot to play for me, as that seemed the punniest way to bot. Wasn't smart enough to pull it off, so I joined with the plebians and just had a kid. Now I make them play for me if the want to eat... is that botting?
 
I tried to build a robot to play for me, as that seemed the punniest way to bot. Wasn't smart enough to pull it off, so I joined with the plebians and just had a kid. Now I make them play for me if the want to eat... is that botting?

Ethics aside, I wouldn't consider that botting, since botting is generally defined as using a program/script to do the playing for you.
 
It's very entertaining to watch this thread. Especially the discussion about automated scripts.

You can't be the 'real' Randshot can you? I mean, it has to be a coincidence right?

I mean the real Randshot wouldn't shows his face here - with all the crap spoken about carebares on that cheating website he contributes ED cheats to. Though I thought THE Randshot never did get automation to work; maybe that was just your last 'public' release.



Just google "Randshot Unknowncheats" to see what he is about. I'd suggest you change your forum name to avoid confusion - unless of course you ARE the Randshot.
 
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Funny you showing your face here - with all the crap you talk about carebares on that cheating website you contribute ED cheats to. Though I thought you never did get automation to work; maybe that was just your last 'public' release.



Just google "Randshot Unknowncheats" to see what he is about.

Interesting read, it seems someone by the name of Randshot has been a very naughty little boy. Of course we can't be sure that the two Randshot's, the Commander who posted here and the script kiddie one are the same person, stranger things have happened ... riiiight .....
 
Interesting read, it seems someone by the name of Randshot has been a very naughty little boy. Of course we can't be sure that the two Randshot's, the Commander who posted here and the script kiddie one are the same person, stranger things have happened ... riiiight .....
Well, after his comment in this very same thread you can't have any more doubts lol
 
Interesting read, it seems someone by the name of Randshot has been a very naughty little boy. Of course we can't be sure that the two Randshot's, the Commander who posted here and the script kiddie one are the same person, stranger things have happened ... riiiight .....

Yea, I'm sure it's a coincidence that someone popped in, mentioning scripting, using the same name and forum pic as he had at other sites. And I'm sure you are right since this is exactly how he talks about not getting caught elsewhere. That nothing could be tagged to him since it can't be proven. You sound just like those people at that website. That also try to get legit people banned for funsies (false reporting in game). Funny you take that stance that 'you can't prove it' just like they do.

But remember - I never called anyone out on anything, so I'm not violating any rules here (fixed my OP in case it wasn't clear of course)
SOMEBODY named that name wanted to bring attention to it. So I called it out for what it is
 
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Yea, I'm sure it's a coincidence that someone popped in, mentioning scripting, using the same name and forum pic as he had at other sites. And I'm sure you are right since this is exactly how he talks about not getting caught elsewhere. That nothing could be tagged to him since it can't be proven. You sound just like those people at that website. That also try to get legit people banned for funsies (false reporting in game). Funny you take that stance that 'you can't prove it' just like they do.

But remember - I never called anyone out on anything, so I'm not violating any rules here.
SOMEBODY named that name wanted to bring attention to it. So I called it out for what it is

Settle pettle, I guess in your heart attack inducing rage you missed the last word in my post '... riiight ....', as in identifying a sense of disbelief at the preceeding comment I made about it being a coincidence. Since the name and the avatar are identical there can be little doubt they are in fact the same person. I am actually surprised he still has an account on here to be honest, other people have been banned from this site for a lot less.
 
Settle pettle, I guess in your heart attack inducing rage you missed the last word in my post '... riiight ....', as in identifying a sense of disbelief at the preceeding comment I made about it being a coincidence. Since the name and the avatar are identical there can be little doubt they are in fact the same person. I am actually surprised he still has an account on here to be honest, other people have been banned from this site for a lot less.

Why should my forum account get banned? I didn't do anything wrong here, did I?
 
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