Is this route plotting occurring anywhere in the vicinity of the California Nebula, Witch Head Nebula, Orion Nebula, or Barnard's Loop? Does it conceivably travel through those areas?
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Route Plotter is TRASH
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I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or not, but based on your posts in this thread, it's clear you and I both have radically different interpretation of what the word "read" actually means.
Since you've been unhelpful and rude to everyone who's been trying to help you in this thread so far, I've reported it to the mods - they can decide if you're trolling or not.
good. take the time to report the BUG post as well, as maybe if someone with your infinite wisdom and importance says something, maybe... just maybe... something will happen
Your problem is the Col 70 Sector and Horsehead Dark Region. Every system in those two regions are permit locked and cannot be plotted to, or through. Travel in that area of the galaxy requires careful, incremental route planning to skirt around the edge of the permit locks. For instance, you can't plot directly from the Bubble to the Orion Nebula Visitor's Center because a lobe of Col 70 Sector gets in the way, but you can plot a course in multiple waypoints that will get you there.
My route was to plot to the California Nebula, then a point coreward halfway between the California Nebula and the Witch Head Nebula to skirt the edge of Col 70 Sector, then a route from the Witch Head Nebula to the Orion Nebula, then through Barnard's Loop and up and over a solid wall of Col 70 Sector systems.
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28K = 28,000
Maybe there are permit locked systems around there. I'll check the gal map.
ninja'd - I am out in that region too, it's been like this for a few years, it's not a bug.
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Now, we finally have enough information to give you an answer.
The route plotter cannot take you through, past or around a permit-locked region - it doesn't have the intelligence to realise that you need to travel "the long way around" an obstacle. In this case, the obstacle is the Col 70 sector. FD could give the route plotter the intelligence it needs... but that would mean calculating routes would take a supercomputer several minutes. Several unnecessary minutes for everyone who isn't trying to traverse permit-restricted space.
Col 70 is a large permit-locked sector, and is "hollow" - there are bubbles of non-permit-locked space inside it. So it's kind of like a bug encountering a glass bottle with a narrow neck - it can't get in, and if it somehow accidentally gets in anyway, it can't figure out how to get out again.
Stay away from the permit-locked regions of space, and your route plotter will work fine.
Firstly, LOL - you just told a guy with 28k first discovered systems on EDSM to leave the Bubble
Secondly, have you got any route filters set? Sometimes they can cause the planner to struggle a bit, so maybe clear them?
Thirdly, as somebody already said, raise a bug report with the route you're trying to plot so that FDev can investigate it.
Might wanna look at that again and edit your post there RCF.
No, definitely not a bug. There's multiple galactic regions that are uniformly permit locked, such as Hyponia and Bovomit. Col 70 Sector is usually the one people encounter first because the high number of interesting nebulae in the region visible from the Bubble. Route plotting tries its best and can usually skirt around a permit locked area, but it will give up if too wild of a course deviation is required.
im aware of the permit locked no fly zone... however, i have personally made this trip before (and on my way back... my route is STILL on my galaxy map), yet it cant plot a route (that i JUST made), for the return trip
im aware of what the "k" means... ty tho, for trying to assist
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"You're holding it wrong!" 
Seriously though... I have had it mess up on me on a few rare occasions. Only when I was very far from the bubble and it had to plot a course through a lot of un-scoopable stars. It plotted me out to that point, but could not plot me back the other direction back to the bubble. It kept failing. For whatever reason.
I eventually managed to get it to work by manually routing for about 8 jumps.
Seriously though... I have had it mess up on me on a few rare occasions. Only when I was very far from the bubble and it had to plot a course through a lot of un-scoopable stars. It plotted me out to that point, but could not plot me back the other direction back to the bubble. It kept failing. For whatever reason.
I eventually managed to get it to work by manually routing for about 8 jumps.
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I just had a look over your posting & thread history to see if I could find the bug you raised about the route plotter, but I couldn't find it.
What I did find was a few observations about your posting history:
* You're rude to everyone.
* You're use of English is too poor for people to comprehend what you're asking, and this makes you angry.
If I was Frontier, I would issue you a full refund for the game as long as you agreed to never play it again.
lol... thats actually funny. wish i knew you in real life
Then why bother us with it?
Not really sure then mate. I am out near Barnard's loop at the moment, it's always been like this for me. I guess it could be considered a bug, the route plotter should look at your previous path. I plot in steps to get out of the region. Am heading to an asteroid base at the moment, am definitely not flying the most direct path.
The rest of the galaxy works well though, back in the early days it was a nightmare. It is lightening fast now in most areas.
i did reply that i was venting...
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IMHO the problem is that the Route plotter instantly fails whenever it checks a single System as a potential Route Target that's Permit-Locked.
I've circled the Permit-locked Sectors around Barnards Loop a few weeks ago when I was back in the bubble. And it was surprisingly painful to plot indeed.
What often helped (after initial Plot failed) was to take a lateral/vertical offset with the Ship to take the entire projected Route some 50LY further away from those permit-locked blocks of Space.
That worked like a charm, but not before that. Even angling the Route away significantly often still had it fail.
I don't know the "Volume of Uncertainty" the Route Plotter checks (fail-trigger), but it seems for 300-400LY Plots it's still some 100LY around, only on longer plots that Volume around the center plot it checks shrinks further (I reckon to some 25-40LY on a 1000LY plot). AFAIK that's about right for Plots with active Jet-Cone Boosts selected.
Deselecting the Jet-Cone Boost Option (if enabled) "should" narrow that Volume of Uncertainty dramatically and afford a far smoother (less chance of failure) plotting when the Route passes anywhere near a permit-locked Sector.
Other than that, I was surprised at the required Jumpranges (was above the permit-locked Sectors on my way out), so any Star type limitation applied to Filter can hurt when above Barnards Loop (unsure if it extends just as far below).
I've circled the Permit-locked Sectors around Barnards Loop a few weeks ago when I was back in the bubble. And it was surprisingly painful to plot indeed.
What often helped (after initial Plot failed) was to take a lateral/vertical offset with the Ship to take the entire projected Route some 50LY further away from those permit-locked blocks of Space.
That worked like a charm, but not before that. Even angling the Route away significantly often still had it fail.
I don't know the "Volume of Uncertainty" the Route Plotter checks (fail-trigger), but it seems for 300-400LY Plots it's still some 100LY around, only on longer plots that Volume around the center plot it checks shrinks further (I reckon to some 25-40LY on a 1000LY plot). AFAIK that's about right for Plots with active Jet-Cone Boosts selected.
Deselecting the Jet-Cone Boost Option (if enabled) "should" narrow that Volume of Uncertainty dramatically and afford a far smoother (less chance of failure) plotting when the Route passes anywhere near a permit-locked Sector.
Other than that, I was surprised at the required Jumpranges (was above the permit-locked Sectors on my way out), so any Star type limitation applied to Filter can hurt when above Barnards Loop (unsure if it extends just as far below).
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Well you picked a hell of a way to get the sympathy of your fellow CMDRs.
i will consider this, before sending my wife out in the Black (without an AFMU), again. I am omw back, from repairing her 28% canopy... lol
Do people not know what trial and error is anymore? When Col 70 gave me trouble, I started randomly selecting systems in the general direction I needed to go till it plotted something workable, or if it didn't then I shortened the distance and kept trying till something worked. Then flew there and repeated.