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:) Thank you.

Yes, it always gets a little better, day after day.
Having aloving wife and two awesome kids is something that worked wonders.

Hopefully the OP doesn't have a loving wife and kids at home when he dropped his number off to his neighbor upstairs :D
 
She wasn't up. I posted her my phone number. I feel better that at least I made a move.

I think don't worry if she doesn't use it right away.
Next time (and I think you're probably best to wait several days here) post an invitation for a drink?
Meanwhile, get down the gym boi ;)
 

Avago Earo

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Well there's your problem right there, how is one "scared" of medicine. Don't take this as mocking, I am genuinely curious.

Cheers. I don't take your comment as mocking. The main point I was making was that very point. I gave it a proper chance (medication), and it is working. Because it took me so long to get here, I wanted to share my experience in the hope that anyone else going through similar may consider that route, just to get on track.

We're all different and medication isn't the solution for everyone. As pointed out in posts above, exercise and diet are a big contributor. I was in a place where that didn't matter anymore. I couldn't pull myself up; the weight was too much. Now I can. I cook at hot meal (or a salad if I feel like it) at least every other day, fresh ingredients, so less microwave last minute meals. I walk at least every other day too.

I just don't like the idea of anyone else going through depression unnecessarily, if a visit to the doctor might be all it takes to get on track.
 

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I had a really bad LSD trip when I was about 19 years old. When, a few years later I was diagnosed with depression and prescribed antidepressants, I'd throw the meds away as soon as I started feeling different, because of my terror of going back there. Of course, they're different substances and act on the body differently, but it stopped me taking a proper course.

Recently, I explained to my doctor that I hadn't been taking them, and why. My doctor put me on the smallest dose, and I was to cut them in half to begin with. It meant I had to wait longer for them to take effect and I would have to gradually build up the dose.

Until that point, I medicated with vodka and that didn't really help.

Mods, if my mention of illegal narcotics is unsuitable (I haven't promoted them, quite the opposite), can you PM me and I'll delete this post as I don't want this thread closed. I mentioned them as an explanation of why I avoided antidepressants.
 
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Mods, if my mention of illegal narcotics is unsuitable (I haven't promoted them, quite the opposite), can you PM me and I'll delete this post as I don't want this thread closed. I mentioned them as an explanation of why I avoided antidepressants.

Context is king and in this case I'll say unless anyone objects it's fine for now.
 
I'm just saying this to anyone that it might affect. It's important.

Talk to people. I nearly died. My friends asked me to get help. I saw a Doctor. I was scared of medication, so I didn't take it. Twenty odd years and I didn't take it. I explained to my dr about my anxiety, and she gave me a small dose to start with, cut in half, until my body accepts the change. Then, with time I upped the dose. It's starting to work now.

I feel 'normal', I'm enjoying going for walks with my mates' dogs. I couldn't do that a couple of months ago. Today I walked into town and back and appreciated the architecture and the wildlife. I even flirted with a woman last night.

I hope that anyone that is living with depression sees this. I want to encourage anyone to talk to their friends/family. Go to your doctor and be honest.

Medication isn't for everybody, it's still your choice. I'm just trying to share my experience if anyone else is going through it, but has worries.

Anyone can PM me. If I'm online, I'll talk about anything.

Peace.

Excellent news Avago! Best wishes to you, I'm glad you got help.
So many people suffer needlessly with this debilitating disease.

Andy
 
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I worry about my sister, and myself.

I have frequent psychotic attacks that are getting out of control, and my sister says she has really bad anxiety, but refuses to seek help?

Result? A very bad family combination.
 
I worry about my sister, and myself.

I have frequent psychotic attacks that are getting out of control, and my sister says she has really bad anxiety, but refuses to seek help?

Result? A very bad family combination.
You must get your meds adjusted my friend.
There is a combo that works for you . Be strong.

Your sister is in denial. If she won't take meds and see a doctor, maybe she needs to try cannabis. That will calm her down.
 

Avago Earo

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I worry about my sister, and myself.

I have frequent psychotic attacks that are getting out of control, and my sister says she has really bad anxiety, but refuses to seek help?

Result? A very bad family combination.

Maybe your sister doesn't trust outside help. I understand that, especially with anxiety. I have friends with psychosis too, they've got it under control now. Perhaps you and your sister should call a doctor together and make a joint appointment. Safety in numbers. Doctors aren't out to get you. Let them know what's going on. Be open and honest. Do it together with your sister so there is familiarity. It might just work.
 
I had a really bad LSD trip when I was about 19 years old. When, a few years later I was diagnosed with depression and prescribed antidepressants, I'd throw the meds away as soon as I started feeling different, because of my terror of going back there. Of course, they're different substances and act on the body differently, but it stopped me taking a proper course.

Recently, I explained to my doctor that I hadn't been taking them, and why. My doctor put me on the smallest dose, and I was to cut them in half to begin with. It meant I had to wait longer for them to take effect and I would have to gradually build up the dose.

Until that point, I medicated with vodka and that didn't really help.

Mods, if my mention of illegal narcotics is unsuitable (I haven't promoted them, quite the opposite), can you PM me and I'll delete this post as I don't want this thread closed. I mentioned them as an explanation of why I avoided antidepressants.

Fair play to you for being so honest. The similarity between my experience and yours is incredible. I did some silly things when I was 18 and a few years later I was diagnosed with depression and prescribed an anti-depressant (Prozac). That drug actually made me worse. I got into fights and all sorts and eventually tried to kill myself with an overdose that I still don't understand how I survived. I woke up to an aural hallucination of the "The drugs don't work" by the verve and I decided it wasn't meant to be. I remember the lyrics speeding up and slowing down and being baffled I was still alive. I totally understand why you avoided anti-depressants.
 
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Avago Earo

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Fair play to you for being so honest. The similarity between my experience and yours is incredible. I took LSD the first time when I was 18 (I took quite a lot of MDMA around that time too) and a few years later I was diagnosed with depression and prescribed an anti-depressant (Prozac). That drug actually made me worse. I got into fights and all sorts and eventually tried to kill myself with an overdose that I still don't understand how I survived. I woke up to an aural hallucination of the "The drugs don't work" by the verve and I decided it wasn't meant to be. I remember the lyrics speeding up and slowing down and being baffled I was still alive. I totally understand why you avoided anti-depressants.

Glad you're okay, Gorton. That Verve song is one of my favourites. For me, in the end 'The Drugs Did Work', I just had to be more honest with my doctor instead of pretending to take them. LSD didn't cause the depression, but because I had such a terrifying trip I was scared to take any meds that might effect brain chemical balance. I understand the bit about getting into fights -I did too. I drank too much, trying to cope and just got angry. It's only recently that I've properly cut down (although I don't fight anymore). The antidepressant I'm on now is called Sertraline. It's pretty mild and a bit of a slow burner (the way I've been dosed). I don't feel out of my head, I can approach things more calmly and I don't see the dark side of the cloud before the silver lining. I can watch ducks in the pond and not get upset about their mortality, I obsessed about that before. I can concentrate on things for much longer now. My hands aren't in pain when I play the guitar, because my posture is relaxed.

Take care, mate. Talk anytime okay?
 
A great book that is helping me right now is "Discipline Equals Freedom" by Joko Willink. Packed full of simple yet brutally honest advice that you can apply to all aspects of your life from working out to work itself. Highly recommended for those of us still in that dark place.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Discipline...=8-7&keywords=extreme+ownership+jocko+willink

The author has a podcast called Joko Podcast on Youtube. Most of it is war related since he is ex special forces, however there are a few gems in there.
 
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Never tried Jiu Jitsu myself. Preferred fighting standing up. Jui Jitsu makes more sense in a real life defence situation ie if someone grabs you. I did it purely for entertainment and challenging myself. Punching and kicking. In real life, drunk nutters outside pubs grab you, and kick boxing/karate/kung fu won't help as you can't get enough distance to throw a punch/kick. You got some bulldog bloke holding you and head butting you.

Pretty much true. rl bullies in a fight often do low crap like grab (like hair) or some (neck) holds. karate almost useless. some basic judo serves much better to create some distance, then whack with the karate or just get the heck out of the there. I'd would for myself to be sure to learn basic escapes from neck holds, hair grabbing, rush waist grabbing, etc. Lots of yt videos now show a bunch of stuff than before.

Kind of related, ED can be a decent casual chill game. Just doing a passenger mission and appreciating the quiet vastness of space. Sure it's not the real thing or an actual clear night sky, but it tries to be closer to some degree kind of like nature sound recordings.
 

Avago Earo

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A great book that is helping me right now is "Discipline Equals Freedom" by Joko Willink. Packed full of simple yet brutally honest advice that you can apply to all aspects of your life from working out to work itself. Highly recommended for those of us still in that dark place.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Discipline...=8-7&keywords=extreme+ownership+jocko+willink

The author has a podcast called Joko Podcast on Youtube. Most of it is war related since he is ex special forces, however there are a few gems in there.

Cheers, I'll check that out. Seriously, nice one.
 

Avago Earo

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Pretty much true. rl bullies in a fight often do low crap like grab (like hair) or some (neck) holds. karate almost useless. some basic judo serves much better to create some distance, then whack with the karate or just get the heck out of the there. I'd would for myself to be sure to learn basic escapes from neck holds, hair grabbing, rush waist grabbing, etc. Lots of yt videos now show a bunch of stuff than before.

Kind of related, ED can be a decent casual chill game. Just doing a passenger mission and appreciating the quiet vastness of space. Sure it's not the real thing or an actual clear night sky, but it tries to be closer to some degree kind of like nature sound recordings.

Yeah, I found that karate was more of a discipline than a realistic way of fighting (unless you're really good) and kick boxing was more realistic. In real life people grapple, that's where I think judo probably helps. Luckily, I don't care about proving myself anymore.

And the rest about sounds, yeah, you're totally right. Cheers.
 

Avago Earo

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A great book that is helping me right now is "Discipline Equals Freedom" by Joko Willink. Packed full of simple yet brutally honest advice that you can apply to all aspects of your life from working out to work itself. Highly recommended for those of us still in that dark place.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Discipline...=8-7&keywords=extreme+ownership+jocko+willink

The author has a podcast called Joko Podcast on Youtube. Most of it is war related since he is ex special forces, however there are a few gems in there.

Oh, and btw I'm cool ifit's from a military perspective. We've all experienced life in our own way. We can learn from anyone. I'm going to check out that book.
 
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