What. We agree on something. That can't be right. I need to change my post.
I know right!
If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.
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I know right!
Honestly, mat mission rewards could contain stuff need for the new gear, be it human made or guardian made, while having to gather guardian material in guardian ruins. That would feel more natural to me. And people who don't want to go planet mining could avoid doing so.
I agree. Nobody wants an I win button. I don't want the stuff to be easy to get either. What I do want is it to be fun and interesting. As it is now, I don't find it fun or interesting. It is meant to be part of the "Personal Narrative" and it does not feel like one.
It could have been done so well with the chained mission system to make it feel like a mini personal quest (personal narrative), I don't understand why they didn't do that.
In Soviet Russia guy saying "it's not a big deal" is melodramatic.
Seriously though, it's optional end game content the "I refuse to grind" argument falls flat from anyone with a fleet they engineered under both V1 and 2 engineers over thousands of hours the "my time is valuable" thing is the same. Noobs are not going to touch this with a ten foot stick, unless they want to of course.
I don't have a double engineered fleet, don't grind and am quite happy with the way the guardian stuff works.
That would be a good point.
If it wasn't for the fact there are a variety of gameplay options throughout the engineering process.
There is one thing to do to get gaurdian tech.
Which takes the same amount of time as unlocking some of the engineers, less so in the case of some of them for example the jump distance requirement for whichever one wants that. Mix guardians up with tourism or exploration, or break off back to the bubble it's only a 25 minute hop and things in mat storage you can't spend anywhere else are not going anywhere.
Doing it all at once is optional, and probably daft for anyone who doesn't enjoy it.
It isn't about time. It's about making the gameplay fun and engaging. I can do the puzzle once an it will be fun and interesting. Doing the same puzzle 20 odd times to unlock stuff is not fun or interesting. Having a chained mission mini quest line to unlock the guardian part of the blueprint and use that for other items in the tech broker would be though, even if it took longer then what it can be done now. It would make it a personal narrative, especially if was done with the PG missions, meaning that people would go to different places to get these items.
The only ones that possibly wouldn't be PG are the story driven ones like the guardian hybrid items.
Maybe that's where we differ then, for me, time is irrelevant, variety is the key.
The suggestions of passenger missions isn't bad though, and it is probably somewhat less horrible for people who get a lot more enjoyment from "exploration" gameplay than me. It is still considerably less varied than the engineering process even taking those few things into account though.
Variety is my thing that's why I've been out there once, come back and might refit and go again. I'll see how I feel next time I log in.
Adding it as an additional thing to tourism missions means a 15-20 minute detour all in, and pots of cash. You'll need to put down carefully though as the passengers don't like hull damage.
Go to site place (wherever it is), do puzzle to UNLOCKE MISSIONE CHAINE.
Do missions (mixed stuff) for whoever it is who has interest in getting them done, I'm not lore savy, some of these orgs or one of them stupid hamster engineer masters to get rewards. I know they like RNG so much so they can put in their beloved crappy drop chances here in the reward tables.
Done. And Stigbob is NOT my uncle.
Now shut up and playe the game.
Do missions (mixed stuff) for whoever it is who has interest in getting them done, I'm not lore savy, some of these orgs or one of them stupid hamster engineer masters to get rewards. I know they like RNG so much so they can put in their beloved crappy drop chances here in the reward tables.
Done. And Stigbob is NOT my uncle.
Now shut up and playe the game.
I got the moustache from a jpeg of Uncle Joe Stalin, so you might as well accept it.
In Soviet Russia they are always listening.
As has been stated, it has nothing to with the speed.
I thought the entire groan fest was about how long it takes, hence the demand for a livestream to demonstrate how long it takes.
Anyway earlier on someone was griping about the sentinels, this sentinel tactical data I have selflessly gathered and provided to the collective could help that cosmonaut to conquer his fears.
It's about how boring and uninspiring the gameplay is. I think most people would be happy even if it took longer but the gameplay was fun and compelling. Grinding out the exact same mechanic in the exact same place is not compelling or fun gameplay even if it was done over a long period of time.
The Tech brokers are meant to be a "personal narrative". It isn't. If they used a long chain of follow-on missions with the tech brokers to get a specific material at the end and contribute to the other requirements, a bit like a mini quest, then I could call it a "personal narative".
The OP goes on quite a bit about time.
Anyway, before I set off back to the Velas Dark collective data farm I thought to myself what's the alternative ?. The answer being a load of stuff I've already done repeatedly, so here I am at the cutting edge of new content enjoying myself.
Next time you are dropping into a CZ or RES site (or whatever your chosen professions are) think about how much time you've spent doing that already days or maybe even weeks probably if you have any elite ratings. A few hours out in the ruins makes a really pleasant change, just don't ruin it for yourself by treating it like a job.
CG's would be fine, if they weren't the exact same thing over and over again.
They are reading, they are listening.
They just aren't responding for risk of adding fuel to the fire.
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Yup. Spending time doing the exact sme thing again and again. Now if you could use that time doing some compelling gameplay, it would be much better would it not?
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