Bottomline, accept the responsibility of playing in open. Learn to either fight or flee. Expect gankers. If you don't want your playing experience ruined, play in pg. As for the block featured and modes, from a business perspective IMO, this provides more environments for people to enjoy my game and buy it. I lose customers if all I have is an open mode where new players will get killed straight out of the gate. Those who say there should only be open mode and the "game is called "dangerous for a reason" thought process aren't thinking of profit margins, just pleasing that percentage of PVP players. The more players I get enjoying themselves and spreading the word means more games purchased which means more money in my pocket. So, multiple modes means people enjoying the game they spend their hard earned money on and not forced to play it a certain way. IMO. o7
Modes To Corvette in narri that merced me and my buddy for literally no reason then killing us as we fled
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Wow did that concept die a death about 30 years ago.
The age of personal responsibility is long gone, with TV ads "where there is blame, there is a claim" and the whole idea of "everyone gets a trophy".
Life lessons of learning from our mistakes, not everyone can win and "take it in the chin" were pronounced dead sometime around 1990.
There needs to be a warning box pop up every time someone clicks to join a multiplayer mode, "Warning, other players can disrupt your game play at will for no reason at all".
And then if someone comes to the forum complaining about what another player did - all forum rules for that thread should be suspended and we should be allowed to tell that person EXACTLY what we think of them.
You are right, we should have a text that speaks "Warning, commanders within your vicinity may log out legally through the 15 second menu log." "Warning, commanders within your vicinity may block you without prior notice or reason."
They wont have any time to do that.
15 sec is more than enough to kill a stationary ship.
Then common sense died with it, personal responsibility is not long gone - it is just a lot of people try to blame others for their own mistakes and certain leeches in society are both feeding off it and letting them get away with it.
In some cases, allocation of blame to a third party is appropriate; However, there are limits - where the OP is concerned, the situation is pretty grey and subjective.
WRT behaviour of players in Open, I think those that behave badly should be held responsible for their actions (regardless of the nature of their behaviours). The OP had done nothing specifically wrong as I see it, though the Corvette pilot may have.
Define "behave badly".
If you need it defined then you must have no common sense.
If you need it defined then you must have no common sense.
I dont. Please educate me.
Bob Lighthouse
Banned
#1 Coming on the forum to complain about and attack people playing the game as intended.
‘Common sense’ is the propaganda term typically large, homogeneous groups like to use to bully, intimidate, and otherwise deman the viewpoints of others that do not agree with them.
Pretty insidious term, honestly. I’m glad it’s been run through the mud the past couple decades.
Pretty insidious term, honestly. I’m glad it’s been run through the mud the past couple decades.
Wow, conspiracy theory much?
The actual definition is;
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/common-sense
sound practical judgement that is independent of specialised knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence.
Doesn't apply in a video game.
Figured you go for the dictionary definition. Try thinking about how the phrase is actually used instead?
It’s like ‘mainstream.’
Lots of things don't apply, but people keep bringing them up.
And clear communication does apply FYI.
And we only get clear communication if everyone uses the correct definitions and make up their own as they go along.
How you use it in your head does not apply.
As I said above, for people to have clear communications - they use a "standardised" form of language, including everyone using the same definitions.
And guess what, the dictionary makes sure we all are on the same page and know what each other is saying.
"common sense" and "propaganda" are 2 very different things.
Bob Lighthouse
Banned
Doesn't apply to a video game.
It's right there in the definition.
Most people have never heard of this game, ergo there is no common sense by that definition.
Agreed!
What is being referred to as common sense is more akin to propaganda.
That was the whole point.
There can be no common sense about that which the common person is unaware of.
Context is everything.
Thats a point never encounter any one of them neither perhaps too am prepare for it every second the moment am in open? Am not saying git gud but thete are ways to evade this.. My only encounter was a bad shot from a cmdr in a haz who said sorry and other was both of us in a vette he intercept me and i said yes?.. He said sorry though u wanted to fight he then high wake!
Hardly, "common sense" is used to refer to the ability to defer information that is either already widely known or easily deferrable from information that is (or should be) widely known. In this particular context, the EULA and ToS cover it even if the numerous discussions in these forums don't. It is far from "propaganda".
The "open is meant to be dangerous" and "anything goes in Open" type arguments on the other hand could constitute propaganda.
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Bob Lighthouse
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Sorry, not even close.
That would be
since this entire game is as well.
That context determines what is or it not bad behavior.
Much like how most people have no clue about the nuances of various sports, nothing in this game is "common sense."
You have to learn it specifically in this context.
Heck, some people here can't even accept the notion that PVP is harder, and that it logically follows PVPers would know more about combat and related shipbuilding.
[where is it]
Like my dad used to say,
"Common sense is uncommon."
Wrong - Specialised knowledge does not apply - what is stated in the EULA and ToS is largely the norm for on-line acceptable behaviour guidelines and in fact also is in-line with what is considered real world acceptable behaviour guidelines.
The only reason common sense may be considered uncommon is because of the blame culture and the refusal of some people to accept responsibility for their own behaviours, mistakes or errors in judgement.
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It does apply to a "video game" because there are still things that are "common sense" in gaming.
Like it is "common sense" that cheating at a game, gets you punished (in the case of online games, banned).
This isn't just and Elite Dangerous thing - it applies to all gaming. So it is "common sense" for anyone who plays games not to cheat.
So the phrase and it's correct usage is fully applicable.
And within "specialised" fields there is also "common sense";
If I walked into a biochemists lab, it's "common sense" to not just pick up 2 random filled containers and mix them for giggles.
It's "common sense" when working at a garage fixing cars, to not go under a car with a cigarette in your mouth.
When working as a Chef, it is "common sense" to keep your attention on your hands when chopping / preparing items.
Because even in "specialised" areas, there are some things you should fully understand before going anywhere near that area, principles that you should have been taught as a child and is "common sense" regardless of where you are or what you're doing.
And in the realm of communication (which was my point), it is "common sense" that people use the same definitions for accurate, clear communication everyone understands.
Otherwise we might as well go back to grunts and chest beating - because changing the definition on the fly because it suits that persons mood makes as much sense as going "ug ug, uh um um" at us.