Solo Powerplay is like joining the army and asking for enemies not to shoot at you.
Heavens knows what these people do when a lowly Powerplay NPC shoots back at them. But thats the thing- they rarely do.
Powerplay should not be made Open-only. Here's why... [EDITED]
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Solo Powerplay is like joining the army and asking for enemies not to shoot at you.
Heavens knows what these people do when a lowly Powerplay NPC shoots back at them. But thats the thing- they rarely do.
No solo PP is like playing Chess against a computer instead of another live person.
I had a whole lot to say about why the OP was spot on, but I've opted against sharing quite so much. I just find switching stances and going back on long-held positions to be unacceptable, no matter who cries about it. If you can't keep your word, your words are worth nothing.
Exactly this.
I'll illustrate it more clearly with one example:
I was with Utopia and Archon Delaine was undermining us top to bottom (in Open mode).
I was analysing the pattern of the attacks, and guessed what system would be next. Three systems in line for attack formed a choke point, and I scambled two wings of our ships to intercept.
After 10 minutes patrolling, one spotter found the underminers. We engaged and drove them off. For two hours we played cat and mouse, slowing the undermining and having fun.
This happened again a bit later. More interception and more fun.
They attacked, we defended. If everyone was in open these events would be happening all the time. In Solo what would I do? I'd have to fortify but we had fortified all our systems, and if Archon undermined too many we would lose profitable systems.
Do those things exist in Solo?
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Haven't read the entire thread but I don't see it that way. "Play alone" can happen in Open. You just aren't part of a team, which was the other option he cited. It could be construed to mean "solo" but it doesn't necessarily imply that.
Hence its slow death.
Robert Maynard
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Read on - you'll find it.
Goose4291
Banned
Personally I adopt the ethos of the economist JM Keynes:
"When my information changes, I alter my conclusions. What do you do, sir?"
Of course. What good is PvP without the 2nd P? Then you just have Pv
Solo to me is the "offline" version of the game.
When they canned offline we were told we would NOT miss out on any content because it would all be available in solo...which is why many of us did not ask for a refund during offline gate, I know some did but a great many of us did not.
I understand why some people would like this to be open only... pvp and pvpers in this game are really a minority and as such they are looking for ways to increase "participants"...I can only say this game was never suppose to be Eve: cockpits.
When they canned offline we were told we would NOT miss out on any content because it would all be available in solo...which is why many of us did not ask for a refund during offline gate, I know some did but a great many of us did not.
I understand why some people would like this to be open only... pvp and pvpers in this game are really a minority and as such they are looking for ways to increase "participants"...I can only say this game was never suppose to be Eve: cockpits.
And the choice exists for you to play in ANY mode you wish- just as it does for others.
Completely agreed here.
Sterling MH
Banned
You DO realise that you dont know how much hauling you need to do to make your side win, right? And you DO know that you can still fight for your faction in whatever way you want, even SHOCK HORROR SCREAMS *SOLO*, and they won't know what you're doing to undermine their efforts, right? Or is it because they're not facing what you face? Well either you're facing the black waiting for someone to come along (no risk) or you'd be facing a hauler, so you'd better be in a hauler yourself, or this isn't what you claimed you want: fairness.
So when I show you what open play is like and answer your question fully, you simply answer with.....nothing?
I'll quote you:
Sterling MH
Banned
So currently there's only one person in open??? P-ing about.
Yeah, but you can do that too. If you think it so easy, go ahead, champ. Git gud and go solo.
PP was not meant to be a PVP only thing. Powerplay was indeed suppose to make pvp more interesting and maybe entice people to participate in pvp more frequently but that was not the sole purpose of PP.
PP is also a way to belong to a NPC faction and a way to influence the BGS, which is something that can be done in solo and group, without having to belong to some player group trying to take over system XYZ.
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I've seen Michael's quote, but it says nothing about what will be, only what was. Of course it worked in Solo. We all know this. I didn't see anything saying it would always apply to Solo.
Sterling MH
Banned
OK, so what? One reason for its slow death is that you left because nobody would be ganked by you, and without a target, what can you do? Well you could have killed NPC targets quicker and more profitably for your faction. you could have "got gud" and swanned about in open in a T9 with D class everything and haul goods as fast as any soloist and BECAUSE YOU'RE SO MUCH GUDDER THAN THEY, with less risk in open.
But, no you wanted to play your game and nobody else wanted to play on your terms, so you left PP and caused its slow death. Then blamed everyone else rather than yourself.
You need to keep reading then. Or you missed it, so go back and try harder.
And Michael's quote has nothing to do with what Sandro might had in mind in the letter .....there is no evidence. Basically he, Micheal made sure the player knew he/she could play PP in Solo, thats all.
For those sweet, sweet Powerplay modules, natch. Frontier put those in there as a lure for players to take part in Powerplay. How many times have you seen people posting here and on Reddit that the only reason they did Powerplay was to get some of dem tasty modules? I know I've seen rather a lot of that.