Anyone else think this is going to be a monumental let down?

[Chris Simon]

Hold on.. Frontier themselves confirmed on the stream with MB that the park areas are limited. It's come straight from the devs mouth. I don't have any issues with limited space either but don't fool people into thinking that you have more space than you actually have. And as stated the cost of the game is not representative of what we appear to be actually getting at this point.

Oh and if have any doubts about me being overly doom or gloom about the game you should check my signature.

Never in any on my posts have I said what you are trying to suggest. I haven't talked about costs, nor tried to tell anybody that the islands are bigger.
I am merely defending their design decision of making islands interesting, rather than big. So save it, please.

 

[Andrew2018]

I personally love the size of the map. It is enough space to create a park, you just have to use the space accordingly. The starting map had a ton of space that could be used if done properly. As well the confirmed the biggest island will be bigger than the biggest planet coaster map which is big.

 

[T.rex]

Ok i will step in at this point and add my two cents.

The Gameplay Demo actually wasn't lacking for me, because all I saw looked beautiful, especially the Dinosaurs, which are the main reason I buy this game. I have never seen better animations in Dinosaur games, not even in games which have realism as the main Focus (I backed Saurian for example). If you want realistic Dinosaurs you shouldn't buy a game with a Jurassic license it's as simple as that. The only realistic looking Dinosaur I saw so far is the Edmontosaurus. Many Dinosaurs had feathers (and since no Dinosaur in JP/JW has feathers means for me I don't need them in game). T.rex actually didn't have feathers and still doesn't look realistic in JP style, but I like the aestetic and so it's all right to me.

To me the buildings looked fine, some are taken straight from the movie or looked like they were inspired by JW. I personally never cared for the fountains in JP: OG I only built them here and ther to make the vistors happier, but I can't say that they ever made me like my park better (this is a personal opinion). I like the sterile Park feel which the movie was also going for, it fits the tone of JW which this game is basically based on.

I can't deny the fact that the terraforming tools seem to bit a bit lacking from what we have seen, it seems as limited as JP: OGs tools.

In the end I have only this to say: JP: OG was neither a perfect game nor did it recieve praises in reviews, if i remember correctly it had mediocre to satisfying ratings (55-70% ratings) and still it is my favourite JP to date. JWE is a spiritual sucessor to this game and I actually never thought I would see a game like this ever again. I am very happy about this game, because there are enough shoot at dinosaurs games out there and I don't see another interesting genre for this game.

Sorry for this long reply but that's how I feel about this game. Feel free to share my views or argue against them.

 

[Mortal26]

Even if the game is bland and lacking especially in the AI department at launch but I am not worried like most people because Frontier always keeps updating/polishing there games.This game will get the same treatment so no need to panic.

 

[DrStephenMeyer]

The game is not meant to be a dream dino park.

• I agree with the Op that the building are limited because they are limited to the Jurrassic Park movie and they aren't allowed to add anything that the Jurrassic world does not have.
• Look at Frost punk a new indie game that came out and its resource tree is far more bigger then the ones for Jurrassic park game.
• I heard that there will be a sanbox island so you can build but the building are limited so it would feel very boring.
• I think players who say is limited need to look at Cities skyline the best building sim out there, so many buildings and customization that is what we would like to see in this game but its not going to be building game. Just a game where you get the feel of that Jurassic park feeling.
• The game was not design to go built you dino park of your dreams.
• So I will have to see if players get bored once they have gone through all the different sectors cause once you done everything, see everything what else can you do? Its like with Frost punk after all the missions there is not much to do any more.

• There is prehistoric Kingdom and that shows more potential of what you can do for your park! This is what should have happen to this game I wonder why the developer did not do this?

• Have a read on all the features this is what we are complaining about that the game should have which they don't. A park you can fully customize and with so much more things to do.
• http://prehistorickingdom.com/blog/

 

[PyrotheRaptor]

This game risk to be a total fail for me, as much to me as the Jurassic Parks fans

 

[dLimith]

I'm defenitely going to enjoy the game Who knows patches and updates will change your mind at a later stage if this doesn't cut it for you!

 

[PCMR4Life]

This game risk to be a total fail for me, as much to me as the Jurassic Parks fans

I am a Jurassic Park fan and this game is not a failure.

You said you were getting a refund. Why still post here then?

 

[Baryonyx]

I'm defenitely going to enjoy the game Who knows patches and updates will change your mind at a later stage if this doesn't cut it for you!

I was really hopeful but last night's AMS had plummeted the hype somewhat.

The confirmation that things that should be really basic aren't included was a let down.

The fact Frontier are good at contained support and updates though is why I haven't cancelled my preorder.

Even though now the game just seems like a $30 title, I don't doubt it will end up been great it like 6 month's time.

 

[Baryonyx]

I am a Jurassic Park fan and this game is not a failure.

You said you were getting a refund. Why still post here then?

Because he still wants to discuss the game? Or are people only allowed to post if they agree with you?

 

[PyrotheRaptor]

Because he still wants to discuss the game? Or are people only allowed to post if they agree with you?

I think he don't understand that everybody don't think as him

 

[Deviljho]

I think this game it's going to be a bit shallow at first, but after some updates, and maybe DLCs (I hope that DLCs doesn't implement basic mechanics that should be free... just new dinosaurs (Well, flying and aquatic dinosaurs will have exclusive mechanics, obviously, but that's understandable) buildings, skins, etc...

I think he don't understand that everybody don't think as him

Yes... he is what people call a "fanboy", he says that the game it's perfect (Ok, that's fine, I have no problem with that, everyone has their own opinion, a game that can be good for one, could be bad for others), but the problem it's that he keeps attacking every other opinion or constructive criticism as "whines", that's not a good attitud toward the forum. If someone write their hopes in a respectful way, what's the problem, that you don't like to see criticism of your beloved game? Yikes, even Frontier are telling on the forum that they are reading the critics to implement the most requested features in future patches

 

[Baryonyx]

Now, I always admit when I was wrong.

Monumental letdown is an exaggeration given what's been revealed.

The story, progression, Dino number, Sorna and the scarring/battle points are all great features which will make the game decent enough to play.

But I still feel let down because of the missing features which really should be in the game and, the poor AI.

So yeah, to sum up, a week before release.

It's gonna be decent, not as bad as feared in March, but still not as good as I hoped when first revealed.

But I do think in 6 months time with patches it will be a good game.

 

[Parritron]

I do not pay attention to criticism. It is one thing to see it in images or the opinions of others and quite another to play it in your own hands. When the game comes out and I try it in depth, I can give my opinion. Meanwhile, the criticisms seem to me exaggerated by people who have not even tried the game. Please, a little sanity.

Sure there will be mistakes but if Frontier continues to support the game (which seems to be for a long time) it will become everything we want.

 

[Norsepath]

Now, I always admit when I was wrong.

Monumental letdown is an exaggeration given what's been revealed.

The story, progression, Dino number, Sorna and the scarring/battle points are all great features which will make the game decent enough to play.

But I still feel let down because of the missing features which really should be in the game and, the poor AI.

So yeah, to sum up, a week before release.

It's gonna be decent, not as bad as feared in March, but still not as good as I hoped when first revealed.

But I do think in 6 months time with patches it will be a good game.

well said everything needs time to develop and they can't fix everything before start games nowadays are being updated for years so the gime will turn in to something great that's for sure

 

[Baryonyx]

In fact later on in gonna go through my original post and check what I was right and wrong about.

I'm gonna guess 80% of my initial criticisms were warranted and are confirmed to be just a week before release.

Then see whether the people who dismissed me, said "it's an early build", "it will be fixed" "it's a demo!" "Quit complaining" "Frontier aren't gonna reveal that yet" "there's 3 months to go" "of course Frontier realise it's an issue" etc will be big enough to apologize .

 

[Deviljho]

In fact later on in gonna go through my original post and check what I was right and wrong about.

I'm gonna guess 80% of my original complaints were warranted and are still issues.

Then see whether the people who dismissed me, said "it's an early build", "it will be fixed" "it's a demo!" "Quit complaining" "Frontier aren't gonna reveal that yet" "there's 3 months to go" "of course Frontier realise it's an issue" etc will be big enough to apologize

Good idea, "A look to the past" post. XD

 

[Baryonyx]

Good idea, "A look to the past" post. XD

And of course, I'll be man enough to apologize for things I was wrong about. Dino number been 30 springs to mind. I was wrong about that, I'll apologize for that now actually. Sorry, Frontier. 37, 5 deluxe and the FK Dinos is a good number.

 

[Norsepath]

And of course, I'll be man enough to apologize for things I was wrong about. Dino number been 30 springs to mind. I was wrong about that, I'll apologize for that now actually. Sorry, Frontier. 37, 5 deluxe and the FK Dinos is a good number.

that was because you where worried about the game a fair reason

btw they were many more then just you

 

[PyrotheRaptor]

For me the main issue of the game is that the devs did not go far enough on what they did, I take just an example and I will compare it with Jurassic Park Operation Genesis : the AI
- In JPOG, dinosaurs have a complex behaviour thanks to the incredible IA that Blue Tongue did, the carnivores for example don't hunt everytime and don't attack any dinosaurs they see, a Velociraptor will don't attack a T. rex or a Spinosaurus, they flee when he see it, and after eating a prey raptors will attack another prey when they will be hungry again, in JWE, I see a video where a raptor fight alone a (small ? why it's the biggest predator of the franchise ...) Spinosaurus ... so if this is the AI of the game, Raptors will not fight in pack like in the movies prey or even for defend themselves against bigger predator ? All the dinosaurs will fight eachothers until there will be just one which survive, even if they are not hungry ?
Other thing devs remove of the game : the difficulty
- There any difficulty as I see on the video : dinosaurs don't attack your staff and your vehicules, the fight are so long that you have the time to do what you want to stop them without any challenge. If you are a little smart, you will quickly understand that if you try to have quicky good fence that resist to almost all dinosaurs you just have to place after building and others dinosaurs ... and the game is finish ... they just remove entire hours of gameplay of the game with this ...
- And finally the dinosaurs themselves (I will don't talk about feathers for people don't flee me, even if you know that for me some species as Deinonychus ou Stucthiomimus must need to have feathers or an option to add this to them), the problems are :
- for almost 50 species in the game, with the Deluxe edition and the Fallen Kingdom update, there only 15 species of carnivores dinosaurs ... the strengh of JPOG is that there as much herbivores as carnivores, and the game give a lot a variety of them, in JWE, 20% for the dinosaurs are thyreophores species (ankylosaurian and stegosaurians species for people who don't know) ... 1/5 of the dinosaurs are thyréophore and 1/4 are carnivores ... and there not a lot of variety in the carnivores (3 species of Spinosauridae even if I like them while there only one Tyrannosauridae). The list of dinosaur seem good, but really inequals between dinosaurs familly, and that bad
- I know that it's a Jurassic Park game but ... a Ceratosaurus of 9m which is able to kill a Triceratops while it's normally a medium carnivore of 6m which hunt basically small dinosaurs ... the model is better than the one of the movie ... but it's the only thing ... and too, if you did a JP game, why did you create some species with (almost) accurate models for some and not for others (I talk about species which don't appear in movies of course) ... they need to be logic in what they do, you create scientifically dinosaurs with just the movies one which are like the movies or you create all the dinosaurs with a JP style ... JPOG did the first way (for 2003 of course) ... that not logic ... even Jurassic World Alive mad better dinosaurs than 80% of the JWE's dinosaurs ...

This game had a lot of things to do if they really want to be a good dinosaur game, or just a good game