General / Off-Topic A sad world we live in

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verminstar

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Sad indeed. You're angry and sad for the little ones, understandably so. Just take care, if only so you can be around to hand out the extra treats; you'll be making them fatter with, from now on. As you said, 2,000 shares; so that is a lot of other angry people, to take up arms; maybe.

The evil here, is not the white dog. It is the guy that calmly called his dog back to him and walked away. As you said: He will be found and dealt with; hopefully, while you are at home, dishing out the love.

Feeling for you and them.

Well Im told its going out on the airwaves too...BBC are putting it on their BBClive news pages because of the feelings this has stirred up. The park is a popular park, lungs of belfast sorta thing so an incident like this gets a lotta attention.

Im finding it easier so long as I keep me mind distracted in the game...so Im mining to unlock an engineer. Seems trivial but its working so Ill go with that...its a couple hours away from everything late on at night when the phones goes quiet.

Thanks all fe the messages of support...ye know I thought I could get over this trauma like so many others...but this ones goinb round and round my head and I cant seem to move past it ^
 
this world contains A-holes, I hope this one gets his just desserts.

PS give Jack & Russell an extra treat from me.
 
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I have a staffie that I have raised since she was a pup. She attacks everything with four legs. She does not like animals at all. I treat her no differently than I did with my previous dogs, who were never a problem. There is something in a staffie that just wants to fight or kill. I recommend dog owners if you see a staffie wandering then by god pick your dog/s up. If the staffie is on a lead, do not let your dog go up to that staffie. I ecounter people with their dogs off the lead daily and they let their dogs come up to my staffie, who will then silently lunge at them, snapping like a crocodile.

Funny thing is she loves kids and people.

Ok, it's time for uncle Lysan to tell ya kids a story, so don't go away.

The American Staffordshire Terrier's roots can be traced back to 19th century England. The Bulldogs and terriers of the time were crossed to create a dog that possessed desirable attributes of each breed. The result was an agile and energetic terrier with the Bulldog-like perseverance and confidence.

The breed was originally called the Bull-and-Terrier Dog, Half and Half, or Pit Dog. Eventually, it became known in England as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Sadly, the dogs were most commonly used for fighting until the early 20th century.

The selection of the breed was done by taking the most aggressive and strongest dogs and use them in the breeding program.
However if the dogs was aggressive towards humans, they were not used, in fact if a dog bite a referee it was terminated instantly. These dogs are NOT for first time dogs owners or if owners who don't know jack about the breed.

Affection Level - High
Friendliness - High
Kid-Friendly - Medium
Pet-Friendly - Medium
Exercise Needs - High
Playfulness - High
Energy Level - High
Trainability - High
Intelligence - Medium
Tendency to Bark - Medium
Amount of Shedding - Medium

As anyone can see, these dogs are not for the lazy person, I take my dogs to the beach and let them run with old tires filled with sand to make them spend energy fast, they need to be on the "thread mill" as much as possible.

The Bull-and-Terrier dogs came to the United States towards the end of the 19th century where they became known as Pit Bull Terriers and then American Bull Terriers.

Though there is some disagreement on the details, it is said that these dogs were not widely used for dog fighting like their ancestors but were more commonly used for general farm work, hunting, and companionship. As time went on, the breed was developed into taller dogs with larger builds than their English counterparts. The breed was registered with the AKC in 1936 as the Staffordshire Terrier. The name was changed in 1972 to differentiate between the shorter, smaller English version (today's Staffordshire Bull Terrier). Today, the two are completely separate dog breeds.

They share the same gen pool, however as time went by, the Pitt Bull and the AmStaff was going in two directions.
Pitt Bulls are still used as fighting dogs, the blood line is more "pure" and it still got the characters and behavior from the old days, Overall, the American Staffordshire Terrier is deeply affectionate, intensely friendly, and joyfully energetic. The breed can become a loving companion for many types of active households. However, be aware that the Am Staff has a strong prey drive and a history of dog fighting, so he should be supervised and carefully introduced when meeting other animals and small children. However, with proper training and socialization, the breed can get along very well with children and even other pets. The American Staffordshire Terrier is known to forge a strong bond with its family. This breed can become a loyal family pet and friend for life.
 
What jerk of that pitbull owner. Even if it wasn't the case he allowed his dog to run off sic'ing others, surely he saw what happened and should have come over to see how you and your dogs were doing and try to help patch things up. Well, if it was intentional, then a psycho nut case using his dog to sic. Hope he gets caught.
 
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Regular viewers might have noticed that Ive gone a bit quiet, and this is in one part an explanation and one part about how sad this world makes me sometimes.

So, picture the scene...first class day sun shining, few messages to run in the city and had dogs with me...pair of jack russells. Went to a dog park that I dont normally go to and, feeling good about the day, left my walking stick in the car cos I wasnt going far.

Large open field above the treeline that borders the upper lagan river...theres a sorta bmx and drinking hangout down that way that kids use down there, best to keep dogs away from that. So anyway, spotted another dog running free just inside the treeline hard to miss it was almost all white...knew the dog breed as a fighting breed even from the distance I was at and decided to start back.

Looked over my shoulder and guess what was racing in my direction at full pelt? It was on the smaller of my two almost immediately and after somewhat of a struggle, I tore its ear off and it leg go only to then go for the larger but more timid of my two and got her almost by the throat.

Ill spare the details as my cross to bear...every second of what happened has been burned into my memory and I now need meds to sleep, or I dont sleep. Ive known violence in my life...but this was something else.

The sad part? After I jammed my car key into its skull...was trying to get its eye but english pitbulls are very strong...trust me on this and Im a fairly big guy meself. A dog whistle went and it answered the call immediately...the owner casually put a choke chain on his dog then turned and walked away like nothing had happened. Take from that what ye will but both the police and the wardens agree it sounds like it was intentional...that how dogs are trained to fight which is why it wont attack humans, only other dogs.

I have a knife built into my walking stick, the one day I didnt bring it. My dogs are both survivors though both had serious injuries and both required emergency surgery...both at home now but almost lost them. I dont partake much on facebook but friends of mind posted pictures and literally half the country knew within hours.

He will be found...eventually either by me m8s or by the peelers...lotta people are very angry about this over here and there aint many of those dogs over here as they are an illegal breed and can only be owned with a licence.

Oh fear not, while I do have anger issues, I myself wouldnt dream of lifting a finger to such a gentle soul...but then again, Im the least of his worries now...and that thought makes me smile and give my two an extra little piece of bacon to share that little bit of joy with the two who deserve it the most.

Tis a sad world when ye think to yerself that this is the sorta stuff that happens to other people, and not you...and then one day, it happens to you and ye realize two things. First of all, yer dogs were nothing more than someones bit of morning fun, a training regime fer a dog not bred fer its good looks. The second thing ye realize is that when it all settles down, yer now nothing more than a statistic...another number on an ever growing list of similar incidents, although this one was particularly vicious.

Tis like silence of the lambs only its not lambs screams I hear in my mind over and over when I close my eyes...its my dogs who never stood a chance...that sound will forever haunt me.

Believe it or not, Im still playing the game...but me head is all over the place...so ye will mayhaps forgive my little rant here while noting its possibly the last thing Ill write fer a bit...need to sort me head out and the game is an escape, the forum is a brain fart and more drama than I need atm.

TLDR...fix yer damned game cos Im still here and its still the best place to escape to and I still love it...and while I play the game, that all I got left to say fer a bit...fly safe cmdrs ^

I don't think I can relate too much as I've not experienced anything particularly depressing in my very short life (yet) but I hope the media coverage will help you find the owner of that dog.
 

verminstar

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I don't think I can relate too much as I've not experienced anything particularly depressing in my very short life (yet) but I hope the media coverage will help you find the owner of that dog.

The media coverage wasnt my doing, I dont trust the law to be effective in finding the guy or dealing with him and I have other ways and means. Ive already told the police that I fully intend to see the guy punished and not in a court of law...they aint exactly happy about that but theres literally nothing they can do to stop it.

I will have my pound of flesh...its simply a matter of time.

Im not one of the bleeding heart liberals who stand in front of a camera asking fer no retaliation...oh no thats really not me at all. Im not a christian therefore Im under no obligation to forgive and forget...thats not how I roll cos the world still wont forgive or forget any of my sins, so why should I do that fer others?

I genuinely hope ye never experience any of that...cos my life will never be good again until I return the favour in kind...I know from experience that I wont be able to just move on and finding this guy will become an obsession and I care not who he is or who he is connected to ^
 
Those breed of dogs -sorry are in the news WAY too often, I hear its not the dogs fault (always ) but really who did the biting.
Owners of that breed should be held responsible for violent crimes against people and pets, and be required to have Very high liability insurance.

I hope that dog is put down and the owners fined and penalized,

Hope you are well and receive some satisfaction in this matter.

the owner should be punished not the dog.
 
Damn man that was horrible.

I'm very sorry for what happened to your dogs, hope they recover as much as possible and quickly. And I'm glad you're not hurt, it could have gone badly for you too. I completely sympathize with you, I love dogs to bits, they're wonderful creatures, currently have 3 with me. I actually believe than we humans could sometimes learn something from them instead of the opposite.

Hope that piece of doesn't get away with this, if some piece of hurt my dogs for no reason, I too would make it my life's mission to make the rest of that fekker's life the most miserable as humanly possible.
 
TLDR...fix yer damned game cos Im still here and its still the best place to escape to and I still love it...and while I play the game, that all I got left to say fer a bit...fly safe cmdrs ^

As many have written, it isn't the dog that is the problem, it is the person that raised and trained it.

From my own bad experience with various people, all I can say is that it is important to remember that yeah there are people like that in the world, there are those that want to harm others. But the vast majority of the people in the world are not like that, they go about their daily lives, hold the door for a stranger, and a ton of other 'normal' small things that we might not consider, help with directions, or what have you.

All these small kindness' those are the normal of the world, that is why events like that make people so angry. All the good in the world, isn't very loud, it simply is. The loud parts are often the bad parts, and they do their best to take up a lot of space, but they are not the normal. And I find it comforting to realise and begin to notice those things, makes me realise the world is not anywhere near as dark as it can seem in the media, yeah there are bad places and bad people, but they are quite a small bit of the overall enormous amount of us people out there.
 

Avago Earo

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I hope you can get some sleep Verminstar. My Border Collie was attacked by that type breed about five years ago. I remember kicking it all over but it wouldn't stop. I had to grab it by the collar and it chewed a gash out of my forearm. I just remember my dog squealing; She only needed stitches on the side of her neck as she'd managed to keep her head down and not get done in the throat. I couldn't sleep for weeks because I had a mixture of sadness at my dog's pain and anger at the owner. At the time I wanted to kill the dog that attacked mine, but it's the owner not socialising it or bringing it up with aggression that's the real crime imo.
 
Vermin gutted to hear about your dogs and gutted some has done that to his own loving dog. I come from a small Lancashire town so I know exactly what u mean when you say this is in trouble. I’ve a crew of friends from 30 odd years of going on the football and I know for a fact the justice we deliver to those who deserve it is final, much as some deserving idiot is about to find out over the water. Good on you.
 
Sorry to hear about your and your dogs ordeal, CMDR.

I have a story about a dog, a dead rabbit and a steering wheel lock.

"Quick, quick, I think the dog is going to attack our daughter!". I was taking a nap in our vacation rental house, when my wife woke me with those words. I ran outside, saw the dog very close to our daughter,, barking and acting very aggressively. Ran to the car a few meters away, grabbed the steering wheel lock (strategically placed on the front seat, since the dog had been acting threatening since our arrival), and started chasing the dog. Sadly, I did not catch it, it ran away too fast for me.

Walked back to the owners house just opposite of ours and had a little chat with the owner, and after just a few words in, judged him to be a maniac.

Well fortunately the police persuaded him to keep the dog inside the house after that. But that was not the end of it because the next morning there was a dead rabbit on our doorstep. We threw it out, since we didn't have any good rabbit recipes at hand and it looked very skinny anyway.

I don't blame the dog, although I would probably have hurt it bad if I could've caught it, I blame the owner who was clearly an idiot. A vacation I'll never forget
 
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Looked over my shoulder and guess what was racing in my direction at full pelt? It was on the smaller of my two almost immediately and after somewhat of a struggle, I tore its ear off and it leg go only to then go for the larger but more timid of my two and got her almost by the throat.

Ill spare the details as my cross to bear...every second of what happened has been burned into my memory and I now need meds to sleep, or I dont sleep. Ive known violence in my life...but this was something else.

May the owner be found and punished. Absolutely horrible!
 
I hope your two dogs recover and you can find peace. It's only a matter of time before the pits owner is found... best of luck and keep living this escape as its a good one :)
 
Sorry to hear about your and your dogs ordeal, CMDR.

I have a story about a dog, a dead rabbit and a steering wheel lock.

"Quick, quick, I think the dog is going to attack our daughter!". I was taking a nap in our vacation rental house, when my wife woke me with those words. I ran outside, saw the dog very close to our daughter,, barking and acting very aggressively. Ran to the car a few meters away, grabbed the steering wheel lock (strategically placed on the front seat, since the dog had been acting threatening since our arrival), and started chasing the dog. Sadly, I did not catch it, it ran away too fast for me.

Walked back to the owners house just opposite of ours and had a little chat with the owner, and after just a few words in, judged him to be a maniac.

Well fortunately the police persuaded him to keep the dog inside the house after that. But that was not the end of it because the next morning there was a dead rabbit on our doorstep. We threw it out, since we didn't have any good rabbit recipes at hand and it looked very skinny anyway.

I don't blame the dog, although I would probably have hurt it bad if I could've caught it, I blame the owner who was clearly an idiot. A vacation I'll never forget

That is why we carry guns..... pop pop threat over....
 
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