Where is the paid 'content' LEP holder get for 'free'

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Frontier should just employ the know-it-alls on this thread. We'd have had a fully fleshed out game with spacelegs earth likes and the rest last December. Maybe earlier as they'd have taken the decision to cancel Jurassic Park and Planet Coaster and poured all the cash into extra devs to make that baby 12 weeks earlier.

So what did that contribute to the discussion again?
 
Frontier should just employ the know-it-alls on this thread. We'd have had a fully fleshed out game with spacelegs earth likes and the rest last December. Maybe earlier as they'd have taken the decision to cancel Jurassic Park and Planet Coaster and poured all the cash into extra devs to make that baby 12 weeks earlier.

It would fall apart during the first meeting when they all started ignoring each other. The legal dept and press office would be well staffed though.
 
With that kind of insight, maybe you should be in charge?

One might think that they know it all even... [hehe]

Couldn't resist.

What're we talking about here again? The last 60 pages or so have gone by pretty quickly. Well, I hope the rest of you are getting some value from it.

Cheers.
 
*cough*

What was the subject of this thread again?

Please stay on topic. thanks.

We all know where the LEP content is and that LEP holders are important to FDEV..

BUT if one listened to all the 'arm chair solicitors', it'll be hard to move through all the magic legal paperwork! :)
 
If your conspiracy theory that I'm a secret dev is true then I already am in charge. It would also negate your point about lack of communication.

Well, that makes as much sense as anyone with the credentials I suppose.

Well done sunshine, keep up the good work.
 
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So what did that contribute to the discussion again?

We've had pages upon pages of some people alluding to the fact that 'they know better' (because they're arguing the LEP content should have arrived x months/years ago/isnt ever coming and Frontier are too slow/rubbish), so Im pointing out how utterly stark raving bonkers they are for asserting this stuff without a single piece of evidence to back up exactly how and when and why the content should have arrived earlier. If it's not relevant, then I don't know what is.

And to be clear. No I don't really know diddly squat either. Sure, I personally know some devs with lots of experience in making big games - and I have a vague understanding of how much time and effort, coffee and problem solving goes into making games - but I have no clue about most of the issues Frontier face in making this game. But I am prepared to give the entire team the benefit of the doubt that they want to make the best game they can and that they aren't sat about wasting their own time and money just to make sure a few people are having to wait longer than they want to for something that will appear but was never (wisely) given a date. Folk just need to be more pragmatic. And sure if Frontier turn round and say "This feature we promised is not coming." Then sure, complain away. [up]
 
We've had pages upon pages of some people alluding to the fact that 'they know better' (because they're arguing the LEP content should have arrived x months/years ago/isnt ever coming and Frontier are too slow/rubbish), so Im pointing out how utterly stark raving bonkers they are for asserting this stuff without a single piece of evidence to back up exactly how and when and why the content should have arrived earlier. If it's not relevant, then I don't know what is.

And to be clear. No I don't really know diddly squat either. Sure, I personally know some devs with lots of experience in making big games - and I have a vague understanding of how much time and effort, coffee and problem solving goes into making games - but I have no clue about most of the issues Frontier face in making this game. But I am prepared to give the entire team the benefit of the doubt that they want to make the best game they can and that they aren't sat about wasting their own time and money just to make sure a few people are having to wait longer than they want to for something that will appear but was never (wisely) given a date. Folk just need to be more pragmatic. And sure if Frontier turn round and say "This feature we promised is not coming." Then sure, complain away. [up]

Actually, they have gotten in trouble for releasing updates too soon, most notably, the 2.3 update and multicrew. I rather wait yet longer but get something worth the wait than waiting less but receiving something that is effectively a derelict.
 
Actually, they have gotten in trouble for releasing updates too soon, most notably, the 2.3 update and multicrew. I rather wait yet longer but get something worth the wait than waiting less but receiving something that is effectively a derelict.

Quite right they have. But not to those who know better. They should have just done twice the work in the same amount of time. Repeat and rinse until done. Bingo! Finished dream game*


* not likely.
 
Bowing out as this goes in circles...

Being disappointed with FD for not giving hints about upcoming premium DLCs is completely justified. It's been a long time and FD being very careful as usual with signaling is overdoing it themselves.

That said all these legends how FD not gonna do anything, how they gonna leave ED, how it is all a scam, it is heartening at best because with all Beyond updates I see devs being very dedicated to make game better.

Sometimes - well, most of times - we are looking for confirmation for our emotions about something and to feel justified. It is not a bad trait but it is a bit vain one. Situations are complex. Sometimes people are just bad, but sometimes you feel bad about people because they have disappointed you and that's basically it.

That being said, FD is on borrowed time here. They have to come out with decisive explanation how things will move forward. Stretching it out to let's say next year will create more confusion and I think community team has understood that it is something they should address.

For the love of God, someone please close this thread!

OP can actually request that by reporting his own post.
 
I would rep you more if I could. Same here. I have no one on my ignore list.

Let's be fair, though, if we're talking verbal abuse then using the ignore is just fine (as well as reporting their posteriors (filter working just fine ;) )
 
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