Codex = Achievements

[Bunkerkind Anni]

Watching Yamiks' last vid made me wonder:

if "personal narrative" is Frontiers wording for grind-unlocks,

does that mean that "Codex" is Frontiers wording for the implementation of "Achievements" in Elite Dangerous?

I mean, for most games, i can look at the achievements to get an idea what i can do aside from the story line, and sometimes i get extras for it.
And from what i heard on about that codex, it is exactly that...
a page ingame, with oversized text boxes, lots of scrolling, and ofc spoiling any future content like the ammo-synthesis tab in my ship,
and maybe an extra tab on the galmap to allow me highlighting systems with my "first discovered" tags, and hopefully one to show my minor faction standing on the big map....

or would expecting THAT much already to much?

(PS: are the icons/smiley for the topic header disabled now? i can't find the selection for them anymore :S )

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

I mean, for most games, i can look at the achievements to get an idea what i can do aside from the story line, and sometimes i get extras for it.
And from what i heard on about that codex, it is exactly that...

Could you share where you heard that? I have heard almost nothing about Codex and really don't know what it is.

That it will hold some information about your discoveries - it was already said. However FD have implied this information will be then used as you wish for other parts of gameplay.

 

[Vasious]

Could you share where you heard that? I have heard almost nothing about Codex and really don't know what it is.

That it will hold some information about your discoveries - it was already said. However FD have implied this information will be then used as you wish for other parts of gameplay.

Yamiks last video

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/439837-video-Guardian-vs-normal-amp-engineered-WEAPONS


And as we know a Youtuber said it, so even thought FDev haven't, it must be 100% true and can never be questioned or disagreed with and never just personal speculation.

 

[Surprised Brony]

I doubt they'd call it a codex just for that. Consoles already have achievement lists so it'd be a waste of time for us.

 

[Factabulous]

To be fair, this forum goes into histrionics over things made up in here, so why not extend the same courtesy to others wild speculations

Anyway - who's for an Open Only Codex thread? After all, there's no achievement doing anything in Solo

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

Could you share where you heard that? I have heard almost nothing about Codex and really don't know what it is.

That it will hold some information about your discoveries - it was already said. However FD have implied this information will be then used as you wish for other parts of gameplay.

Frontier Expo livestream almost a year ago?

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Frontier Expo livestream almost a year ago?

I was *at* Frontier Expo and I didn't hear anything about Codex except that for one it will hold information about exploration discoveries, which then can be used to discover things. It was very cryptic and that's all we know till Exploration feedback forum.

But I guess people can't stop dissing FD so let's invent some stuff.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

so,
yesterday ED used again the phrase "personal narrative" to describe the process of shooting a guardian beacons power-points to collect the guardian ancient key (if its a personal narrative, why is that item a consumable?)

i still wonder if anyone expects the codex to be MORE then just a list of achievements?

 

[Barking_Mad]

Codex information so far:

One new feature would be the Codex. This would not only log exploration discoveries but also act as an encyclopedia to give more depth and context to what you find as well as possibly hinting at other things that could be found in the galaxy.

The galaxy will be divided into regions to help you plot, in conjunction with the Codex, where the discoveries are.

If anyone has links to more sourced info please share so I can update my blog. Cheers.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Codex information so far:

One new feature would be the Codex. This would not only log exploration discoveries but also act as an encyclopedia to give more depth and context to what you find as well as possibly hinting at other things that could be found in the galaxy.

The galaxy will be divided into regions to help you plot, in conjunction with the Codex, where the discoveries are.

If anyone has links to more sourced info please share so I can update my blog. Cheers.

That is all we know and I am looking forward to it too. I doesn't look like an achievements system to me but an information tool of all that we have found. Hopefully the Exploration Focus Feedback will give us more details whenever that turns up.

 

[askavir]

I'm expecting the Codex to be something more akin to an in-game info/lore Wiki, rather than some kind of "steam achievements"...

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

I just hope it's not another "log.txt" file to be used with 3rd parties software.

It "shall" be an in-game feature otherwise I don't care.

 

[Mengy]

We honestly have next to no idea what the Codex will actually be yet.

We'll just have to wait and see, like usual.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

We honestly have next to no idea what the Codex will actually be yet.

We'll just have to wait and see, like usual.

This. Although by way it has been described it feels more of in-game journal you see your personal discoveries...maybe with some analytics thrown in? Hint system?

Yeah, it can be almost anything....I hope it is something good.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

Codex information so far:
One new feature would be the Codex. This would not only log exploration discoveries but also act as an encyclopedia to give more depth and context to what you find as well as possibly hinting at other things that could be found in the galaxy.
The galaxy will be divided into regions to help you plot, in conjunction with the Codex, where the discoveries are.

If anyone has links to more sourced info please share so I can update my blog. Cheers.

everything after "but" sounds exactly like achievements.
yes, i hope its something ingame - but i also hope the data is written into a log that can be deciphered by an API, since up to now, the current FDEV team has kinda failed to put something into the game that doesn't have very long loading times when you open it
and doesn't close with every loading screen (aka FSD usage)

edit:
and honestly, i wouldn't put any hope into a focused feedback for exploration, since whatever they implement should already be in the pipeline where only cosmetic changes are possible until release.

 

[JesusRocks1988]

You can glean more information about what an Elite Dangerous codex could look like by looking at the Jurassic World Evolution version of the codex.

As soon as they showed that at the expo, I thought that they would do the same for Elite, and that is exactly what they seem to be doing.

I do not believe it was a coincidence that the two codices were announced at the expo within the same talk.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

everything after "but" sounds exactly like achievements.
yes, i hope its something ingame - but i also hope the data is written into a log that can be deciphered by an API, since up to now, the current FDEV team has kinda failed to put something into the game that doesn't have very long loading times when you open it
and doesn't close with every loading screen (aka FSD usage)

edit:
and honestly, i wouldn't put any hope into a focused feedback for exploration, since whatever they implement should already be in the pipeline where only cosmetic changes are possible until release.

Cosmetic changes is what I thought the focus forums were for.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

edit:
and honestly, i wouldn't put any hope into a focused feedback for exploration, since whatever they implement should already be in the pipeline where only cosmetic changes are possible until release.

But the plan was never have fully community driven development for exploration. FD still develops game. They presented mining ideas almost 1 year ago, 6 months before mining FF. Of course it is mostly for tweaking changes, not adding bulk of unplanned / unscheduled code prior release.

With all exploration feedback over years I think FD knows pretty well what players are after. They might have decided they really need FF closer to release when they have all ducks in the row. In fact, I would prefer exploration FF during Q4 month long beta.

 

[Bunkerkind Anni]

But the plan was never have fully community driven development for exploration. FD still develops game. They presented mining ideas almost 1 year ago, 6 months before mining FF. Of course it is mostly for tweaking changes, not adding bulk of unplanned / unscheduled code prior release.

With all exploration feedback over years I think FD knows pretty well what players are after. They might have decided they really need FF closer to release when they have all ducks in the row. In fact, I would prefer exploration FF during Q4 month long beta.

at this point, i would hope that there IS a beta planned for the Q4 update.

and FD should know what players are after,
they should also know what players expect from patches.

yet they often deliver the complete opposite. nearest example, are wing missions.
Players asked for two things: missions do-able in a wing with shared reward, and missions that have a higher difficulty that may require a wing.
their interpretation is something completely different that the majority just doesn't want to see
(with a few exception for those who got lucky and found the random combination that makes it easy credit faucets)

its the same with the "personal narrative"
actually i already miss an achievement page that tells me what "narratives" i have already discovered.

 

[Mengy]

You can glean more information about what an Elite Dangerous codex could look like by looking at the Jurassic World Evolution version of the codex.

As soon as they showed that at the expo, I thought that they would do the same for Elite, and that is exactly what they seem to be doing.

I do not believe it was a coincidence that the two codices were announced at the expo within the same talk.

I don't own JWE nor have I ever played it, but this is a reasonable hypothesis.

Could you explain how the JWE "codex" is designed and implemented?