Why does my 34th century spaceship have no autopilot OR how do you accept the hyperjump grind?

[Ziggy Stardust]

How about this rule: If any major feature that has long reaching affects on the game can be performed by a bot, the feature needs to be redesigned because it is not implemented as game play, it's implemented as a boring, monotonous, repetitive grind.

Does that include aimbots?

 

[Ed [FCOC]]

Technically Formula One races could be done by GPS and no drivers. Then they could input RNG to see what happens. Everyone could go to sleep for two hours while the computers did everything. Actually this would be an improvement on Formula one as it is so mind numbingly dull already.

Hyperspace is a big deal. You are essentially launching yourself faster than the speed of light having just filled up with fuel by skimming a vast ball of ignited hydrogen and helium. I think given the magnitude of doing that over and over again, i'd want to be awake and have my hands on the controller.

 

[askavir]

Does that include aimbots?

Being fair, shooting stuff for the sake of shooting stuff is, indeed, a boring, monotonous, repetitive grind.

 

[Lestat]

How about we just warp to where we want to go and forgo super cruise for anything greater than 5,000ls?

Well that a different subject so feel free to post a new topic about it.

If you are meant to just sit there with absolutely nothing to actually do in the game for more than 30 seconds, the game has some serious design issues. Within the confines of the game, idly sitting and staring at your screen is not game play.

So you are still off on a different subject.

Let break it down.

Let say we both go to the same system that had an ELW that 600k ls away. I willing to do the 600k ls grind. You, however, don't want to do the grind. Thing is YOU have a choice.
1 Do the grind and whine.
2 Or jump to a new system and hope that the system has an ELW. How many systems can you jump to while I do 1 system with 600k ls Grind? Which take about 15 Minutes.

See this is about choices.

 

[UmbraRex]

How about we just warp to where we want to go and forgo super cruise for anything greater than 5,000ls?

If you are meant to just sit there with absolutely nothing to actually do in the game for more than 30 seconds, the game has some serious design issues. Within the confines of the game, idly sitting and staring at your screen is not game play.

You know the payouts for missions to further out stations would have to be reduced, right? That is after all why missions to stations further away from the entry point have higher payouts, it takes longer to get there and there is (theoretically) a higher risk you will get interdicted...

 

[Lestat]

You know the payouts for missions to further out stations would have to be reduced, right? That is after all why missions to stations further away from the entry point have higher payouts, it takes longer to get there and there is (theoretically) a higher risk you will get interdicted...

You can also look at the galaxy map and most of the time buy system data and get the info at how far a station is.

 

[Wrecked]

You know the payouts for missions to further out stations would have to be reduced, right? That is after all why missions to stations further away from the entry point have higher payouts, it takes longer to get there and there is (theoretically) a higher risk you will get interdicted...

So fix the way rewards work... this isn't a hard concept. The game is flawed if payouts are based on how long you can stare at the screen and do nothing.

Why do people defend this lack of game play instead of thinking of ways that could make it better?

 

[Dbrn47]

And they like to imply that other people are idiots and don't know what they are talking about, (as in "no genius," he exclaimed sarcastically) so there you are again using logical fallacies against people, in case you didn't know that was the "ad hominum" fallacy;



Do you want to throw another one in and go for a hat trick?

Do you want to actually contribute to the discussion or do you just want to continue to annoy? You were incorrect and you were called out on it, nothing more. I'm sure there's a fallacy to cite when it comes to what you're doing as well, so you can stop now.

 

[Dbrn47]

We don't need lazypilot. Here why. botters may biggest threat elite dangerous galaxy. We don't want to make it easier for Botters having Lazypilot added to the game.

If you are asking for lazypilot and going to turn away from the game then the easy trick is turn off the game because you are not playing the game.

What does being lazy have to do with this? We're all sitting at a desk pressing the same few inputs over and over. If we're going to argue lazy then we shouldn't be loading up the game in the first place.

 

[UmbraRex]

So fix the way rewards work... this isn't a hard concept. The game is flawed if payouts are based on how long you can stare at the screen and do nothing.

Why do people defend this lack of game play instead of thinking of ways that could make it better?

I merely pointed out that payouts would have to change if you could just skip to your destination in system.

I have to admit I'm having a difficult time envisioning a system to scale payments for missions that doesn't take into account distance from the entry point. Perhaps you have a proposal?

 

[Lestat]

What does being lazy have to do with this? We're all sitting at a desk pressing the same few inputs over and over. If we're going to argue lazy then we shouldn't be loading up the game in the first place.

I call autopilot lazypilot because players don't have to do anything and don't have to be in front of the computer. Hence that why I call Autopilot lazypilot. If you don't have to do anything then why play the game.

We all know people who use Bots are going to take advantage of Lazypilot and abuse it.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

What does being lazy have to do with this? We're all sitting at a desk pressing the same few inputs over and over. If we're going to argue lazy then we shouldn't be loading up the game in the first place.

And for some people, their delicate psyche would be far better off if they didn't load the game in the first place.

I merely pointed out that payouts would have to change if you could just skip to your destination in system.

I have to admit I'm having a difficult time envisioning a system to scale payments for missions that doesn't take into account distance from the entry point. Perhaps you have a proposal?

Freeform text field for people to enter in what ever payment they want.

 

[Manticore]

The short answer is simply the game is not approachable by the OP.

The longer answer is that Frontier have essentially provided a modern equivalent of the original elite, only the scale is so vast that they simply did not ultimately consider the real-world commitment required. Frontier has tried to pitch Elite as the everyman (every person) game and it certainly is not.

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Elite is a particular experience and always will be, regardless of how its dressed. It can take folks a while to realise this.

This says it all and, honestly, it does give the lowdown to the OP; this game isn't for them.

I don't see much point in this thread other than that. Autopilot whinges are an old whinge around here and, personally, do not want.

Nicely said... o7!

 

[Dbrn47]

I call autopilot lazypilot because players don't have to do anything and don't have to be in front of the computer. Hence that why I call Autopilot lazypilot. If you don't have to do anything then why play the game.

We all know people who use Bots are going to take advantage of Lazypilot and abuse it.

A proper auto pilot implementation would make it so you still need to do stuff while taking away some of the repetition of long range travel, but unfortunately instead of discussing what a proper one would look like it's mostly being trashed as an idea and denied any implementation. Since it isn't going to happen, what would your version of it look like?

 

[Dbrn47]

And for some people, their delicate psyche would be far better off if they didn't load the game in the first place.

I get that you're trying to insult someone here, but it doesn't make much sense. Are you saying that boredom makes them delicate? Are you saying that if you don't like something and then critique/complain about it on a forum it makes them delicate? Are you saying if they can't 'handle' the 'challenge' of long range travel they are delicate?

 

[Lestat]

A proper auto pilot implementation would make it so you still need to do stuff while taking away some of the repetition of long range travel, but unfortunately instead of discussing what a proper one would look like it's mostly being trashed as an idea and denied any implementation. Since it isn't going to happen, what would your version of it look like?

So Is your idea to add captcha? Those things are so annoying. Oh, by the way, You can buy bots to do captcha also.

Listen if you don't like long travel then do shorter missions. You don't need Lazypilot. You need to learn to play smarter.

 

[Dbrn47]

So Is your idea to add captcha? Those things are so annoying. Oh, by the way, You can buy bots to do captcha also.

Listen if you don't like long travel then do shorter missions. You don't need Lazypilot. You need to learn to play smarter.

What's with the putting words in my mouth? No, nothing about captcha and I never said anything about missions. Way to answer my question with things I didn't say and 'play smarter' though. Quality commentary.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

A proper auto pilot implementation would make it so you still need to do stuff while taking away some of the repetition of long range travel, but unfortunately instead of discussing what a proper one would look like it's mostly being trashed as an idea and denied any implementation. Since it isn't going to happen, what would your version of it look like?

Well, offer more ideas, so far I've heard the nav beacon choice and the fly until you refuel option.

 

[Lestat]

What's with the putting words in my mouth? No, nothing about captcha and I never said anything about missions. Way to answer my question with things I didn't say and 'play smarter' though. Quality commentary.

Well next time learn from your mistake. post real ideas instead of being very veg on an idea. And when people see a post like yours they have to fill in a blank. For me, Captcha fit your idea like a glove.

 

[EUS]

Exploring, sorry traveling: I've done my fair share. For every minute of traveling, I have hands on flying of maybe 20 seconds; go around the star and line up the next jump. And since this is always in SC, the flight model is not that exhilarating.

This, to me, is one of the countless facets of "exploration" that has to be dealt with in Q4.

I used to be vehemently against it, but if Q4 doesn't address this coma-inducing travel mechanic, then an auto-pilot would be welcomed by me.