News Let's talk about Gnosis and the Cone Sector

[Primey]

Well this again shows how so far removed from the playing public actually are. If we could not go to the Cone Sector, bloody say so. You should have told Canonn

Instead you have found another way to generally P£$^ Off the paying public who have spent weeks awaiting this. What we have instead is yet ANOTHER grind. We were supposed to be getting away from this type of play for while to experience a new unexplored area

2018 has been one massive disappointment from this clown company as regards ED. I do think the beginning of the end is coming. Sorry David Braben, this game is fundamentally broken now.

 

[Frank Craft]

What about players who took a purely exploration ship? They have no weapons, especially no AX weapons. What do they do? I'm not there but if I decided to go I know I would've gone in an exploration vessel. What do you do with those thousands of players now? I don't get this. They can't even leave because they would be destroyed by Thargoids? How are they supposed to play now, then?

Players like me in my unarmed Explorer?

Well... I initially got destroyed a few times leaving the Gnosis. Mmmk... Then finally I got out OK away from the nasties. I flew around a bit watching other Commanders zapping the bugs. Then I hummed an hawed for a bit. Now I'm planning to return to the bubble.

"We don't want to waste your time." S.Sammarco

 

[The Latman]

Hey Rainbro,

Just to clarify from the post above.

The area of space (Cone sector) that the Gnosis was aiming to jump to was never a location that was able to jump to. This is because the location is specifically meant to be used for future narrative. That's the reason why the initiative from the community was weaved into the actual lore of the game.

Thanks,

Zac

So what about this then:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/445716-BREAKING-NEWS-GNOSIS-STRANDED-GALNET-NEWS!?p=6983805&viewfull=1#post6983805

Post #29......or heres a hint:

 

[Delphis]

Majorly disappointing

To FDev: All the hype of the event to be a complete flop is quite the disappointment. I'm not sure why FDev could not have just played along and let emergent gameplay go. A great many people wanted to see it happen. It just smacks of being out of touch with the community that makes the game what it is

 

[Viperbane]

What I don't get is why people in this "outrage" flood are insisting that the story should be changed. There is nothing wrong with the story and it is up to Frontier to decide how to tell it. Don't get me wrong - I love the fact that they've said OK to some levels of player decisions, but let's face it - Most of us have watched every epic sci-fi and fantasy film under the Sun at least 3 times each - We know almost every single plot line and derivation of those plot lines. If the players were in charge this game would get the equivalent of those that buy a book and read the last page first to find out how it ends.

 

[Weps]

in that case the option to jump to that system should never have been a thing, you should have told Canon "no sorry you cant go there due to future stuffs" and then lock the system as it should have been to start with, instead you caused those 11k pilots to waste weeks prep time all for nothing, very wrong move, i personally came back to the game from a long brake to do this and go to a new area and do some science and searching, oh well looks like i'll be going back to No Mans Sky for now.

Precisely this.

To be honest I had no idea about this event, how it was being handled, how many players were involved and what it meant for them. Never followed it, never read a topic about it.

I was slightly amused when I read about the amateur hour you managed to pull with Galnet, and that was about it.

But now reading this thread and learning what actually transpired with the whole event... what you did was pull a 4th wall Bazinga on your playerbase. Do you realize this is the road to angry, derogatory videos on YouTube about your products?

When something is not possible or not allowed to happen in your video game, you specifically make that clear to the players. If you want to sugarcoat it with lore that's fine, that's even better, but you don't keep it a secret until the last moment as a surprise. You don't do surprises about what's possible and not possible from a technical point of view, in a video game, which is not real life. Are you aware of how many faithful customers you disappointed today?

It would have been the same if you hadn't announced that carriers and ice planets were no longer coming, then on December 31st you would have posted a Galnet article: "The Thargoids ate all the ice planets and all the carriers. They're no longer coming. This was part of a storyline for you guys. Syke! Gotcha!".

I understand you were well-intentioned, but please, don't do this in the future.

 

[PublicWifi]

For those Commanders who have found themselves detained further away, please contact our support team who will be happy to move you back to the Gnosis, should you wish to be…

I appreciate this more then the article and current events.

 

[Mack Winston]

The area of space (Cone sector) that the Gnosis was aiming to jump to was never a location that was able to jump to. This is because the location is specifically meant to be used for future narrative. That's the reason why the initiative from the community was weaved into the actual lore of the game.

I appreciate your communication here about the whole event.

However, this should have been made clear 2 weeks ago with the cancellation of the Gnosis going to the Cone the moment it was permit locked. There was even talk about "there will be three systems to explore" instead of making it clear there'd be zero systems to explore. Instead what we have is just a massive bait-and-switch. This is really not very good. Is there anything worthwhile going to happen with the Gnosis now, or should I just head back to the bubble? I'm not interested particuarly at shooting at Thargoids.

 

[CMDR Exorcist]

But enough said. I will go back to Thargoid fighting know and feel sad for the explorers on board who can pretty much just go home to the bubble emptyhanded.

Karaya

That was me. I left and went back to the bubble this morning with nothing but a bitter taste for everything going on with this game right now.

CMDR Ex

 

[Theodrid]

Awwww. Not even a jump ending smack bang in the middle of Thargoid Central?

GalNet:
We received a transmission from Ziggy Stardust, reporting from Cone seconds before his fragmentated demise

Just In, Thargoids respond to Mr Stardust's transmission......

[video=youtube;s7MHfqN08Ig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MHfqN08Ig[/video]

 

[Enderby]

Player like me in my unarmed Explorer?

Well I got destroyed a few times leaving the Gnosis. Mmmk... Then finally I got out OK away from the nasties. I flew around a bit watching other Commanders zapping the bugs. Then I hummed an hawed for a bit. Now I'm planning to return to the bubble.

"We don't want to waste your time." S.Sammarco

Don’t want to, but will.

 

[Julio Montega]

Hey Rainbro,

Just to clarify from the post above.

The area of space (Cone sector) that the Gnosis was aiming to jump to was never a location that was able to jump to. This is because the location is specifically meant to be used for future narrative. That's the reason why the initiative from the community was weaved into the actual lore of the game.

Thanks,

Zac

When the game first entered the release, i did understand why you wanted some separated systems
with ties to story be locked away.
We are now 4 years in, and we are still unable to visit systems like "Polaris" and such,
with them still being locked.

Let me put this clear:
Permit Lock = Bad bad old game design idea.
People travelling to locked systems in supercruise should have showed
you the interest of the playerbase, to have the freedom to visit every system,
not to have some arbitrary "no jump possible" pop up instead.

If later releases of story driven stuff happen and break the personal immersion
and continuity well then let it happen and get rid of those permit locks already.

You can always add the story related assets later.

This whole movement for having the gnosis now jump to locked systems
is the next indicator those locks need to be lifted, people just want to go there,
because they are forbidden to do so.

<- will chuckle in other games watching how this unfolds.

 

[Richard Bentley]

For me the whole Gnosis thing was always going to be a step into the unknown. The chances of it making the jump without a hitch were limited at best.
It was always going to be a 4-week commitment before the ship returned, with the Gnosis as the only way in or out of the locked region of space.
Not much has changed in that regard. There is a plotline in operation and the next stage will be revealed soon.
Most likely there will be some combat CGs to push back the Thargoids attacking the ship and others to locate and mine materials to make repairs.
Outfitting on the Gnosis may have to be modified to allow access to scanners and other scientific gear that isn't there now (xenoscanner and wake scanner for example).
Then the Gnosis may complete the jump, or may be retasked if the plotline so dictates.

 

[skiboot]

So basically what you're trying to say is...Yknow that amazing expedition into the unknown that all of these pilots came for...? Yeah its not happening. Well...wow...thanks for that. You look up the word "anti-climax" in the dictionary youll see a picture of Fdev right there beside it.

After a year of sub-par updates and the recent cancellation of carriers you guys needed this event to claw back some respect from the community but nooooo...you stay quiet about the impossibilty of ever visiting this system and build up the hopes of players everywhere that something amazing was going to happen and then not only leak it early but manage to dissapoint many of those who were clinging onto you with that last shred of hope.

Nice one......appreciate it.

So much this....

 

[SheepDip82]

FDEV definitely chose the worst way to handle this locked area issue.

A much better alterante scenario should have been:
Let the jump happen, reproduce the content that we have now in OUTOTZ in the CONE SECTOR.
Since the area is too dangerous Canonn replan the jump to leave the area after one week instead of end of September (just the time to repair the ship from the Thargoids attack).
Players engage the fight, explorers find the barnacles sites.
Everyone is happy, everyone can say "I've been to the Cone Sector".

This. How hard could it have been?

Damage the Gnosis, make sure it jumps to a system in the cone sector with resource X (doesn't have to be barnacles) which needs to be harvested whilst AX players fight off Thargoids.

If they knew it was never going to happen then they shouldn't have given Canonn the green light to go there.

 

[Rainbro]

So what about this then:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...GALNET-NEWS!?p=6983805&viewfull=1#post6983805

Post #29......or heres a hint:

A technicality, most likely. The jump was planned, as they said. It just didn't succeed. That post was just there to hype us up.

 

[Marshall...]

Zac/Will the clarity around the points is much appreciated.

 

[Stealthie]

For me the whole Gnosis thing was always going to be a step into the unknown. The chances of it making the jump without a hitch were limited at best.
It was always going to be a 4-week commitment before the ship returned, with the Gnosis as the only way in or out of the locked region of space.
Not much has changed in that regard. There is a plotline in operation and the next stage will be revealed soon.
Most likely there will be some combat CGs to push back the Thargoids attacking the ship and others to locate and mine materials to make repairs.
Outfitting on the Gnosis may have to be modified to allow access to scanners and other scientific gear that isn't there now (xenoscanner and wake scanner for example).
Then the Gnosis may complete the jump, or may be retasked if the plotline so dictates.

A step into the unknown... just without the step.

It's kind of like making a movie about somebody going to explore Mars and then, in the final act, the hero gets hit by a bus and doesn't go.

 

[ajg007]

To me this is a win win situation for fdev. Some commanders are disappointed, some are happy! Both sides are talking about Elite good or bad.

 

[t3ngu]

Thanks Will and FDEV.
Well done, looks super interesting even if is not for everyone.
cool stuff. Cheers