WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Modes 1 mission board. 1 mode. Set protected areas for new to mid game players.
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Touch what? Your boastful assertions without proof?
No thanks, I'd rather have something substantial to hold onto, like the fact that Frontier would never commit financial suicide by doing the very thing you "think" they would do in the first place. They know better, and as a business- not a "charity" they simply understand that ALL of their customers are valued.
In the end, all you've got is wild speculation, propaganda, and assertions. You've been PROVEN wrong, time and time again, many people have tried to educate you on the basics of how things work in this game, for over a year now... and you just don't "get" it.
Morghan was right... there simply is no "reaching" you, you've gone "Beyond" the possibility. It's truly sad, because you seem intelligent enough to understand, yet lack the ability to see the bigger picture here.
No thanks, I'd rather have something substantial to hold onto, like the fact that Frontier would never commit financial suicide by doing the very thing you "think" they would do in the first place. They know better, and as a business- not a "charity" they simply understand that ALL of their customers are valued.
In the end, all you've got is wild speculation, propaganda, and assertions. You've been PROVEN wrong, time and time again, many people have tried to educate you on the basics of how things work in this game, for over a year now... and you just don't "get" it.
Morghan was right... there simply is no "reaching" you, you've gone "Beyond" the possibility. It's truly sad, because you seem intelligent enough to understand, yet lack the ability to see the bigger picture here.
Robert Maynard
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We'll see.
Every player has access to the same attacking options and defensive measures. That some players don't want to use them but want to require any opposition to engage in an optional play-style is obvious - and ultimately fruitless.
In this game the attack / defend mechanics are baked into the BGS and don't require any PvP whatsoever - so, not griefing, no. Players being in the wrong game mode and complaining about being shot at? Not necessarily griefing either.
The game has attracted both PvP and PvE players based on a PvE game design that offers optional direct PvP between players in the same instance, in the same mode, at the same time and also pretty much mandatory asynchronous indirect competition between all players in all game modes all of the time.
It hasn't been designed as a PvP game (else it would only have had one game mode).
No-one requires to be a statistic on anyone else's ship - as, even if there were only one game mode, there are three platforms to consider - plus the limitations of the matchmaking system between geographically separated players. Then there's the fact that there's no requirement to play the game in the first place.
I was thinking this, its a bit like reading the "Sunday Sport" that had about as much fake news as this thread.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Heres something else for you guys to chew on.
You think the uptime right after the gnosis was a fluke there was persistent instancing?
Thats a whole different folder to mess with to make that happen.
Its doesnt happen on accident.
Again this whole month has been a meme. You'll see.
You think the uptime right after the gnosis was a fluke there was persistent instancing?
Thats a whole different folder to mess with to make that happen.
Its doesnt happen on accident.
Again this whole month has been a meme. You'll see.
Well I've found out the reason for the sudden storms and bad weather;
90s used actual EVIDENCE from a real member of Frontier!!
Somewhere froze over and now the apocalypse is here.
Glad I took the sides off my gazebo, or it would have been in the neighbours garden by now.
90s, next time you want to break the universe, give me a heads up - I need to stock up on beer
90s used actual EVIDENCE from a real member of Frontier!!
Somewhere froze over and now the apocalypse is here.
Glad I took the sides off my gazebo, or it would have been in the neighbours garden by now.
90s, next time you want to break the universe, give me a heads up - I need to stock up on beer
WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Well I've found out the reason for the sudden storms and bad weather;
90s used actual EVIDENCE from a real member of Frontier!!
Somewhere froze over and now the apocalypse is here.
Glad I took the sides off my gazebo, or it would have been in the neighbours garden by now.
90s, next time you want to break the universe, give me a heads up - I need to stock up on beer
I wish I head that weather. California needs it. Fires and Drought. Its been pretty rough this year.
Heres something else for you guys to chew on.
You think the uptime right after the gnosis was a fluke there was persistent instancing?
Thats a whole different folder to mess with to make that happen.
Its doesnt happen on accident.
Again this whole month has been a meme. You'll see.
Another animated YouTube video without any concrete or substantial proof?
Color me surprised.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Not sure what you're getting at.
Instances remain as long as there is one player in it - and, in a busy place like the Gnosis instance must have been, it's likely that there was at least one player in it for quite some time. If that's what you mean by persistent instancing that is?
Still waiting to see why "California needs it."
How about you put that effort of yours behind your boastful claim, or just admit your fingers typed faster than your brain?
Proof would be nice, because the more you type, the more your PvP-bros suffer because of what a mockery you're making of what they represent.
Take it from a former PvP player.
*waits another week for a T90's post making boastful claims*
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As for 90's "California needs it" comment, he is saying California needs the storms Jockey described because the winter before last was a extremely wet one that caused an explosion in brush growth, especially in hard to access areas. Than a late spring and summer of no rain which left everything a tinder for the massive fires like the Tubbs and Thomas fires to consume. Then a weak fall and winter of rain with another spring and summer of no rain. Currently the largest fire in California's history the Mendocino Complex fire is north west of me and and is still not fully contained because of the inaccessibility of terrain and reports are that it won't be contained fully until we get 3 to 4 days of good rain in that area.
As for 90's predictions about ED.. He reminds me of those Apocalypse preachers who say god talks to them and keep saying when the "rapture" will be then when it doesn't happen say well god say that it will happen on this other day instead.
As for 90's predictions about ED.. He reminds me of those Apocalypse preachers who say god talks to them and keep saying when the "rapture" will be then when it doesn't happen say well god say that it will happen on this other day instead.
I'm still trying to digest the "former PvP player claim. Do you mean in ED?
I'll give you the reasons I don't PVP in this game despite the fact I have PVP'd in other games and enjoyed it just fine. Only bothering to post because you didn't mention them in your post.
1. PVP in this game appears to be intensely boring to me. The 'to me' is highlighted because it's a personal perspective but the time-to-kill which is created by shield engineering, plus resistance/heavy duty booster stacking, plus shield cell stacking plus the Guardian shield boosters is ridiculous. I get bored shooting shield cell spamming npcs and they don't have anything like the stacking potential that a properly built PVP ship can attain. Honestly, spending 10-15 minutes taking someone's shields down is the epitome of tedium to me. I've watched videos of fights like that and I'm just like 'how can anybody find this enjoyable?' I totally get that some people will love it and find the tactical challenge thrilling but it just leave me cold. If I'm having a fight I want it to be quick, nasty and brutal.
2. The fact that the fastest way to have a fight which is actually quick, nasty and brutal (for you lol) is to fly a ship built for anything other than PVP and end up getting involved in PVP.
3. The fact that in a game with about 20,000 populated systems the only way you're going to take off in your PVP ship (which you can't do much else in) and be guaranteed to actually find some PVP rather than just fly round like a derp all night is to go to places that you know players will be. So that's basically Jameson, or the current CG, only a hell of a lot of the players at those locations won't be there because they want to PVP. That means I either steam in and attack them anyway, or just give up. Trouble is the only reason I ever PVP in games to begin with is for an increased challenge and fighting players who are not in specialised combat ships and who don't particularly want to fight me isn't a challenge, so there's no sense of satisfaction regardless of the outcome. That leaves organised fights, only then we're basically into an informal arena set-up which really defeats the entire point of playing the game to begin with for me because it's not a MOBA, it's an open world space game.
That's it really - it just doesn't fit in with the things I would choose to do to have fun in this game. Now don't get me wrong, all of the above could be changed (although shield stacking in particular has only ever traveled in one direction since I started playing three years ago and it ain't downwards) but I don;t see any inclination from the developer to do that.
The game was never designed from the ground up to focus on PVP. I think FDev made a rod for their own back with the way they designed it to be honest because what they've basically done is taken the chess club kids and the kids who liked to sort out arguments with a punch up after school, stuck them in the same room with a bunch of chess sets and then wondered why when they came back an hour later some kids have chess pieces shoved up their nose and are crying in the corner. The trouble is, they've sold the game now for four years on the basis of it being PVP optional. No developer in their right mind is going to tell their player base with 2.5 million accounts sold that they're changing such a fundamental aspect of the game's premise, it would be commercial suicide.
I do think you'll get open-only Powerplay eventually. No mater what other changes may come though, I can't see any way on earth that the basic question of modes is going to be addressed any way other than that. There was perhaps a time that such a fundamental change could have been made, although to be honest when you look at the fact some kickstarter backers are still salty as hell about the fact there's no offline mode, even that is open to considerable debate.
Now though, four years after release? It's a pipe dream mate. Really it is. If you're honestly expecting there's even a 5% chance of it happening, I can only suggest you stop because down that path lies nothing but disappointment for you. They have never given even the slightest encouragement for people to believe otherwise.
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But the problem is he can read all our thoughts and know the truths that apparently we cannot so no matter how many times or what we explain to him why we don't PVP... only his Assumptions are the "real" reasons, because he cannot be wrong.
What's there to "digest"? I have never said that I PvP'ed in ED.
I just didn't buy this game specifically for that purpose- and many others didn't either.
Yes, former- because I stopped engaging in PvP in games years ago. Does this mean I magically "forgot" what PvP is all about? Nope. Does it mean I have something "against" other PvP players? Nope. (although I do take issue with the implication that "Dangerous" means it's all about "versus" other players, and it cannot simply imply that many things are dangerous)
They certainly seem to have something "against" me as a PvE player, though. Enough to assert that everyone else should be their content, regardless of their own personal reasons for enjoying this game.
How instead about... you do you, and I'll do me? Or is that too much of a stretch here?
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You seem very touchy about the subject, to be honest. I simply asked you a question, because you made it sound like your PvP experience was relevant to ED and as long as I've seen you on the forum you've been extremely anti-PvP, so I was confused and wondering what I'd missed. Please don't forum yell at me, ok? I'm very sensitive.
How was she "touchy" about the subject? Why did you need to "digest" anything? And where is her all caps post cause I don't see any screaming here.
Speaking of overly touchy...
I asked a simple question, as I detailed in the post that you quoted, and she clearly got bent out of shape and jumped all over me. No big deal of course, but there's your answer.
Funny how I ask you something simply and I'm "overly sensitive". Seems like anyone asking you something magically has a problem.
Anyone interpreting my first question to Sylveria as a negative is being touchy, get it? Especially when you throw in the fact that you're either ignoring or missing entirely my attempts at putting the situation behind us with some tongue in cheek humor