Ohhhh, Please miss, I know the answer to this one!
Its because thats all their technology can handle, isn't it. I'm sure they said so somewhere so it must be true.
This is why I worry about the future of ED - it's FDev themselves
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Ohhhh, Please miss, I know the answer to this one!
Its because thats all their technology can handle, isn't it. I'm sure they said so somewhere so it must be true.
You should never retrospectively change a games basic foundation purely for the people who didn't do any proper research before buying in. Modes are a thing, and they are all equal. That fight was already lost pre-launch.
Exactly, these are mostly minor issues or annoyances. Many MMO's have npc's or npc opponents that have slightly different behaviors and characteristics from the pc's especially if they die easily. And no, an npc using shield banks don't regenerate full shields in a "blink" where you can see the shield bank use in effect, and they usually have far less shields and resistances than a typical engr'd pc ship. Bug complaining is overblown. Take the PS4-slim "elephant hind leather" 'bug' for example. I noticed a similar issue, when the shaders option is set to low and there is dim lighting, like low shaders use some kind of repeated interlaced pattern which look like "leathery" stripes. For the PC it's really an option rather than a "bug" issue. Just up the shaders to medium and then the leathery strips are gone. Or better yet, ditch the problem ps4-slim probably from a bad factory set, and get a better supported PS4, PS4-pro with better graphics card, updated drivers or whatever. Just continuing to mention inconsequential or minor bugs or issues just looks like FD-bashing and trolling for the sake of it.
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I wonder what Mac users think about that...
Isn't that the problem of Apple, not FD? Or are you going to blame FD for events outside of their control?
Mac users are used to not being able to play most games on their Macs. That's why most have a gaming PC or a console.
Even ship transfer discussion was arguments based, and voting was called in because FD had their own split on that - Sandro vs. producers.
It is always about arguments, not popularity. And even if they would decide that and call in a vote, it wouldn't happen here on forums.
It's mostly a "problem" of FDev - they decided that it is not worth the effort to keep supporting macOS.
I'm encouraged that some visitors did this and, more importantly were able to do this. It proves that the event was not merely a love fest and everyone lapping up some kind of publicity show. It proves there was healthy two-way communication and FD are mature enough to take it.
It's like the friend who always tells you that you are wonderful, that everything you do is great. You learn not to value their opinion. But the true friend is the one whose balanced advice you appreciate.
Stigbob is saying the developer can never change a preestablished system in the game if it restricts customers accessing the game or parts of the game.. They closed the Mac game completely so they could continue development of the game, so this argument is is based on a false assumption.
If you mean worth the effort as rewrite engine completely with still lacking proper compute shaders required for planetary landings, then yes.
Mac users never had any big bargaining power to begin with. Apple decided not to play well with developers. End of story.
They aren't really comparable decisions though.
You're coming at this from a bespoke development sale. In that, you're approaching or having being asked, to provide a solution specific to that customer. In that scenario you are correct. You analyse, specify, sell, develop, test, deliver, train.
How-ever, when selling a product to a global audience, you are not there to sell or provide a bespoke solution. Therefore, you create a product that is a viable solution to a mass market. To get a product that is viable, you meet with multiple target audience participants and get a common framework on which to built the most necessary components that will deliver what the customer wants and indeed needs (if there was no need, there'd be no sale).
Elite is a not bespoke product tempered to the needs of one player. It is a mass marketed game to apparently millions of players. So tell me, As a lead developer, are you going to visit each and every one and deliver a bespoke solution? No, you're going to design and deliver a combination of solutions to cater for a combination of needs.
As a game, a leisure activity, it needs to cater to the most commonest. I get Elite is meant to be something special, but from what I see, it is nothing more than a 30 year old game with up-to-date graphics, which are astounding. The actual game play, is boring and bereft of imagination. There is nothing dynamic, the rewards given begrudgingly. And worse, it is a bug ridden mess. It is entirely disjointed and built on the idea that using randomness is the key to success.
There is no doubt that this is my opinion, I still play Elite, but I can say this with utmost certainty, if Elite did not have the graphics it has, I'd have felt like I was ripped off.
The real question is this; if Elite became subscription based tomorrow, how many would sign up? (That's rhetorical, but indicative of how successful an MMO really is) And if it is a successful as everyone is saying, why is it not subscription based?
I think we all want what is best for us and the game, neither exist without the other after all.
...and that just proves my point.
I'm not saying they are bad ideas...but I can come up with a few better ways, imo, to handle some of the things in there and some additions to others that you clearly didn't think of. Plus some features are way to simplistic and basic. Needs way more fleshing out. So I can see in your feature mechanics what you're complaining about FD doing. Like I said...it's impossible to please everyone with a world wide audience and an off the self package.
You push all of those in the game tomorrow and then you would have posts saying how these features are rubbish and how FD is dead because of it.
Don't care. Shouldn't be using a mac to play games
Well I agree.. but that's not really the debate in question.
"maybe I should finally Bootcamp Windows and join the real gaming world. Thank you FDev for showing me that Apple, with their substandard graphics driver and API support, don't care about gamers"
While I was frustrated that Apple didn't update OpenGL more than they did, Frontier also could have adapted to Metal once it became capable. They are, after all, already catering to at least two different graphics libraries (DirectX and whatever the PS4 uses), so catering to another one would have been eminently doable. There's blame on both sides and, like it or not, Apple are rather bigger.
But that's an argument for a different thread.
