The Star Citizen Thread v9
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X4 really shows up SC as the amateur tech demo it is. Surely this whole thing will eventually hit critical mass when even the most enthusiastic supporters have to concede it just isn’t going to ever be in a fit state to release.
Whats actually more surprising is that these frequent horror reports are not met with zealots trying to debunk and discredit everything this round. Many of these posts stand unchallenged...its like the wind has turned....
CIG will never release a playable game because their engine is broken six ways to sunday. Many, many ex devs have spoken out about the engine state and the poor working conditions in the studios.
The IFCS system that handles ship, vehicle and missile movements does not use newtonian physics, there is no code for inertia or mass, the Cryengine physics layer isn't used. It is a target based system and the guy who built it to Chris Robert's design left the company a few months ago.
Not only are CIG legally obliged to use Cryengine, they are stuck with what they have done to it over the last 6 years. For those reasons there will never, ever be a game coming out of this.
Normally super secret and private discussions are flying out and spilling over everywhere right now. Internal leaks last summer about the fragility of the engine and how it needed years of work before trying to add any new features, how the networking needed rebuilt from scratch - proper low level stuff - all come true as the absolute mess of the engine becomes wholly undeniable with this release.
Erin was doing interviews this year about 1,000 player instances coming in 2019...
I can't believe it, but I have actually never heard of both of them. Just a quick glance at X4 makes me excited... thans for the mention, gonna check them out!
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Jacques d'Orleans
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I lol'ed hard.
[video=youtube;qLKhxjfG03A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLKhxjfG03A[/video]
Seems like coming out in Q4 alright.
To be fair, one should not forget X:R and fact that while X4 looks good, it doesn't reach for same level of fidelity or graphics level.
Said that, it is second game already during SC development, so...yeah, Egosoft at least know how to release games.
I suggest you are a bit more cautious than already championing any EgoSoft game as a good example of bugfree releases. [haha] It is also a bit of a silly comparison: all the problems with 'netcode', FPS AI, planetary landings etc etc are not really overcome in X4, they are simply completely omitted. Which is fine, but makes it a poor choice for comparing the two...
Incidently, regarding those Boredgamer videos I posted above, apparently they now have created a "dedicated team" for sorting out the flight simulation. You would have thought that they would have sorted out the flight system in a spaceship game years ago...
It's been requested and moaned about so much over the years. I suppose it is about time they sorted it out. I'm sceptical they can do anything great with it. He said they wanted to "simplify" the system and have turning circles etc. You mean implement proper inertia? What kind of handcrafted nonsence do they already have with their IFCS system?
It's been requested and moaned about so much over the years. I suppose it is about time they sorted it out. I'm sceptical they can do anything great with it. He said they wanted to "simplify" the system and have turning circles etc. You mean implement proper inertia? What kind of handcrafted nonsence do they already have with their IFCS system?
John Pritchett was heading up the flight physics, but he left in June. He handed over to David Coulson. A guy whose only game is this...
It can only get better from here...
Oh, I think you underestimate how much left there is to do and how much margin this leaves for CIG to make things much much worse — something for which they have demonstrated a very unique and peculiar aptness and ability.
They had a 'deep dive' team dedicated to it in January this year, and all they managed to do with it was stuff it into a background process.
The control inputs are all framerate dependant, and it's networked up its own wazoo.
It's about as big a disaster as you get, and a bunch of ex TT QAs and kids who left college a year ago aren't going to do anything with it.
Boredgamer and all those guys are gullible scam artists keeping their own end of the con running. A 'dedicated team' lmao, a couple of college kids with Chris yelling "why don't you just fix it" over the skype...
Sounds like nothing much changes.
Deep dive? Are they still struggling with the water level? Ah, maybe the pipeline got clogged and needed cleaning.
Fun fact: AI cycles (targetting) and NPC speed was tied to framerate in ME3MP, too. Some may find this ridiculous but it had some charm when pugging and went wth is wrong today?
What has that to do with SC you ask? Well, my answer to the unbeliever is:You gotta git gud with your framerated controls in an ever changing environment of challenging gameplay. Trains the muscle memories.
I m not sure that kind of gameplay qualifies SC for BDSSE...