PvP In defense of murder (in game)

Duc_Mallard

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No Walter , that isn't it.
I wanted to be able to show people who cannot understand it, why the people that do it, do so, and that there may be something of worth in it, contrary to popular opinion
 

Madrax573

Madrax573
Go Duc!!!

The reason a lot of people are complaining about bullying and whatnot is simple. They have an inability to distinguish between a game (and therefore not real) to actual event in real life. So when they see something in a game that doesn't fit their tunnel vision of morality they cry to everyone about how you are bullying people and harassing them etc.

Keep having fun doing whatever it is you enjoy and let others worry about how their panties are getting twisted :D
 

Agravar

Agravar
As someone who plays in Open for 90% plus of my gametime and avoids PvP, I have to say that the threat of being 'Ganked' (has happened to me and at the time not much fun), does add something to the game, strangely enough. It adds that little bit of fear when flying that I think I would miss if not there. It is not something I would do myself but if you are simulating the galaxy then you would expect all types of characters to be in it. Also, it gives a reason to become a better combat pilot and get better ships to deal with it. Credit to the OP for the post.
 

Florenus

Florenus
Madrax573 said:
Go Duc!!!

The reason a lot of people are complaining about bullying and whatnot is simple. They have an inability to distinguish between a game (and therefore not real) to actual event in real life. So when they see something in a game that doesn't fit their tunnel vision of morality they cry to everyone about how you are bullying people and harassing them etc.

Keep having fun doing whatever it is you enjoy and let others worry about how their panties are getting twisted :D
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Interesting. I suppose you don't recognize the fact that playing game is real world activity? If you prey on weak player in game, you're as much a bully as if you would be by destroying a sand castle of a kid playing next to you in sandbox.
Game allows for that, its true - and it was part of OP excuse.
Game also allows players to occupy landing pads forever. Don't call those people "pad hoggers" and don't judge them then. They're just having fun.

I mean, play this game as you like, I'm just happy I don't have to play with you.
 

Duc_Mallard

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Florence, im going to rltty again to help.you understand why it's inappropriate to relate this to real world bullying, by using a real world example as you insist on doing:

The game of football(soccer), in the playground (because you always reference children for some reason. I thought it was mostly 40yrolds that played this not nine year olds but maybe I'm wrong).
One of the things you can do in a game of football is score goals. Another one is defend. Both are valid enterprises.
If one nine year old decides that another nine year old scoring against him is bullying, does that mean it is? All adult rationale says no. However, that nine year old child may be very upset and cry and be convinced the other one has bullied him by scoring a goal. This is understandable because he is a child and hasn't yet had time to fully appreciate that they are not the center of the galaxy.
The child that scored may feel a bit sorry for him, he may not, he may be just happy with experiencing the game of football.
No one decides that he is a bully do they?
 

Duc_Mallard

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That you resort to what is essentially name calling and character defamation out side of the game and in fact in a real world forum is highly ironic no...
 

Wasp0

Wasp0
I have a second Cmdr account for doing just what the Op did/does! That way i feel less guilt in some weird way!
 

TheMegaTurnip

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Florenus said:
Interesting. I suppose you don't recognize the fact that playing game is real world activity? If you prey on weak player in game, you're as much a bully as if you would be by destroying a sand castle of a kid playing next to you in sandbox.
Game allows for that, its true - and it was part of OP excuse.
Game also allows players to occupy landing pads forever. Don't call those people "pad hoggers" and don't judge them then. They're just having fun.

I mean, play this game as you like, I'm just happy I don't have to play with you.
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C'mon man, this is a game. If you need to demonise folks who kill others in game to make yourself feel better about loosing a ship then fine. But at the end of the day it's just pixels on a screen.

I'd honestly suggest trying it from both sides. PvP and or murder can be great fun given the right circumstances. Partaking in either of these things does not show bully like tendancies or any sort of anti social behaviour whatso ever. At the end of the day, it's a game with guns in it, you really can't give people stick for using them on each other.
 

Florenus

Florenus
Bully:
"someone who hurts or frightens someone else, often over a period of time, and often forcing them to do something that they do not want to do"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bully

"one who is habitually cruel, insulting, or threatening to others who are weaker, smaller, or in some way vulnerable"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bully

"A person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bully

You acted like a bully. Just face it.
 

Florenus

Florenus
Duc_Mallard said:
Florence, im going to rltty again to help.you understand why it's inappropriate to relate this to real world bullying, by using a real world example as you insist on doing:

The game of football(soccer), in the playground (because you always reference children for some reason. I thought it was mostly 40yrolds that played this not nine year olds but maybe I'm wrong).
One of the things you can do in a game of football is score goals. Another one is defend. Both are valid enterprises.
If one nine year old decides that another nine year old scoring against him is bullying, does that mean it is? All adult rationale says no. However, that nine year old child may be very upset and cry and be convinced the other one has bullied him by scoring a goal. This is understandable because he is a child and hasn't yet had time to fully appreciate that they are not the center of the galaxy.
The child that scored may feel a bit sorry for him, he may not, he may be just happy with experiencing the game of football.
No one decides that he is a bully do they?
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I reference children, because bullying is generally child's behaviour.
Also egocentricity shown in "this behaviour has merits, because it gives me pleasure" philosophy is characteristic to children, who are unable to distingush between what is subjective and objective.
 

TheMegaTurnip

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Florenus said:
Bully:
"someone who hurts or frightens someone else, often over a period of time, and often forcing them to do something that they do not want to do"
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bully

"one who is habitually cruel, insulting, or threatening to others who are weaker, smaller, or in some way vulnerable"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bully

"A person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bully

You acted like a bully. Just face it.
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If thats your opinion lol.

As I've said, this is a GAME.

Stop being butthurt over someone making decisions you have no control over, it's not cool man.

Go murder someone in any other game, people take it on the chin and move on with thier day. ED's community is potentially the only one I've ever been part of that equates gunplay against other players to be "greifing" or "bulllying". It's actually laughable.
 

Duc_Mallard

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Florenus
Wow. The point is I'm playing the game within the rules as defined by the rule makers. You are not the rule maker.
No I am not a bully. You can say that in the game I was acting like a bully, fine. "Game" "acting" .
To repeatedly call me.a.bully outside of the game is LAUGHABLY hypocritical. That you are susceptible to confirmation bias, and appear to be suffering with cognitive dissonance, is in fact not an excuse to insult someone in the REAL world.
What you perhaps haven't considered is nuance.:
In the game, on multiple occasions, I have spent more than three hours at a time helping noobs in eravate and answering their questions and flying with them. These people are strangers. Tbh it can get pretty boring, but I do it because sometimes my cmdr likes to help other helpless cmdrs.
So what does that make me a hero now? No, its just something I decided to do in a game for the experience.
You need some life experience I think
 

Florenus

Florenus
First you find weak ship to attack. You destroy it. Then you encounter player again and you threathen him - the player you know is weaker than you - that you'll hunt him down if he will not do as you tell him to.
That is bullying. Period.

And you seem to have a problem with accepting that fact. You keep repeating I'm judging you, or calling you names. I'm not. I'm simply giving things proper name.

And that's enough from me, because I'm tired with this childish squabbling.
 
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