Do we still see ED as being THE space game in 12 months?

[-VR- Max Factor]

I don't have a strong opinion. Just curious what others think. The recent SC demos have been pretty strong and i've observed Obsidianant for eg recently focussing on that and X4 instead of ED. Is ED getting stale i wonder? It's had a good run but maybe we're on the cusp of contenders for the crown taking it's place? Or will the unknown 'big' update we've been told to expect reassert it's dominance?? Personally i hope so. I hope it can fulfil it's planned 10 year life anyway.

I have no interest in X4 to be honest, I am not at all interested in Empire/corporation building. NMS is not my cup of tea and I have tried hard to like it, there is just something missing from it. SC may never release and even if it does there is no guarantee that it will be any good.

ED on the other hand alway keeps me interested, I am alway doing something I enjoy and in my view it gets better in some way with every update. Sure it isn't perfect but I don't think there is a game that is.

For me, I can't see anything else and if something else does come along I am sure it will be different enough that I can play both very happily.

 

[znôrt]

I don't have a strong opinion. Just curious what others think. The recent SC demos have been pretty strong and i've observed Obsidianant for eg recently focussing on that and X4 instead of ED. Is ED getting stale i wonder? It's had a good run but maybe we're on the cusp of contenders for the crown taking it's place? Or will the unknown 'big' update we've been told to expect reassert it's dominance?? Personally i hope so. I hope it can fulfil it's planned 10 year life anyway.

so you ...

1. first give it an imaginary glory status just to give more dramatism to ...
2. your core message, which is just a baseless doom prediction in the usual newspeak question form, which is bullcrap anyway, to then ...
3. finish up on a positive line dressed in your love for the game and a false statement

and you get 121 replies for this crap. nice to see boredom still going strong around here! [haha]

 

[Jenner]

Because THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!@#!#

Amirte? Eh?

*crickets*

 

[Gun Star]

Because THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!@#!#

Amirte? Eh?

*crickets*

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

so you ...

1. first give it an imaginary glory status just to give more dramatism to ...
2. your core message, which is just a baseless doom prediction in the usual newspeak question form, which is bullcrap anyway, to then ...
3. finish up on a positive line dressed in your love for the game and a false statement

and you get 121 replies for this crap. nice to see boredom still going strong around here! [haha]

General gaming section isn't that bad and dead as you think.

 

[znôrt]

General gaming section isn't that bad and dead as you think.

thanks, i'm usually unaware of the forum section. now i admit i don't really know much what to do with this new knowledge!

 

[Mu77ley]

But yeah, Space Engineers.
As of the present day, I am flying a major long exploration trip. All in the 'same' space. They seem to have got over some of the floating point issues (fingers crossed it lasts)..

You see, to me Space Engineers seems more like a tree-puncher crafting/survival game with a space theme, just like NMS.

I'm glad you enjoy it, but that doesn't interest me in the slightest.

 

[Surefoot]

For me ED was and still is "the" VR experience. The game itself takes a bit of a backseat, as it's certainly focused on space combat with all other mechanics quite under developed or at embryonic stage (or just plain silly like Powerplay). The space trucking and economy cannot hold at all vs other big space games (X series, EvE..), exploration is just for screenshots and brain melting in VR (try and look at that FTL loading screen for 10 hours and come back to me).. Ah there's surface racing which is a fun emergent game, although very limited due to having just 1 SRV and a lack of race tracks.. Still, fun in VR yeah. If i want to show off my Oculus that's what i do, and then a quick lap in Project Cars 2 or Assetto Corsa and people are sold on the technology, despite it being 1st gen with poor resolution.
As for pure space combat, Infinity Battlescape is shaping up as one of the greats, and i have to try Dreadnought and a few others...

 

[znôrt]

(try and look at that FTL loading screen for 10 hours and come back to me)

close your eyes and relax. sound will cue your aproximation, and it's a bit like waking up from a dream. or to a dream. not sure.
(also pro tip: loading is much faster in solo, and it's a single player game at its core anyway)

yes, i would see no point in elite without vr. however ... with vr ... can't stop getting wow-ed!

 

[Surefoot]

close your eyes and relax. sound will cue your aproximation, and it's a bit like waking up from a dream. or to a dream. not sure.
(also pro tip: loading is much faster in solo, and it's a single player game at its core anyway)

I did it once and regretted. The galaxy is wide and the starscape becomes amazing near the core, but that's it... Everything else is same-ish and the best sceneries can be found inside the bubble just the same. There is nothing to do, i could overcome the immense frustration of doing nothing and having to stare at that repetitive warp animation by listening to a lot of music. Then enter a system, honk, scan high value planets if there is any and rinse and repeat. No thank you... At least non-VR flat screen players can have Netflix on the side, we have not that kind of luxury.
Long distance smuggling was quite ok as it had the tension of nonstop pirates and police chasing me, getting under their noses undetected.. that was maybe the best aspect of this game outside of the excellent space combat in planetary rings.

 

[znôrt]

I did it once and regretted. The galaxy is wide and the starscape becomes amazing near the core, but that's it... Everything else is same-ish and the best sceneries can be found inside the bubble just the same. There is nothing to do

it's all about the experience, and that's a matter of dose. when i've had enough i just leave it alone for a while. the gameplay is notorious for its weakness and bizarreness unless you're playing one of the several meta-games, which i don't engage much with. but with appropriate dosage the experience is still incredibly good and doesn't get old.

 

[EUS]

Still?
Never was.
For me THE space game is Homeworld. The original game.

 

[znôrt]

THE space game is Homeworld. The original game.

i'm not fond of 'THE' categories but yes, if i had to choose that would be the choice in my entire lifetime too. but i'm still alive!!

 

[Iskariot]

I beg to disagree. Playing in a setting that replicates the full galaxy, including the vast majority of the real celestial objects catalogued to date makes immersion go through the roof, at least in my case. The ability to actually visit all those real spots in a 1:1 setting all intertwined with a reasonably detailed ship management and pew pew system is a very powerful mix that no other space game has at the moment.

Exactly this.

The things ED still lacks to really achieve that true feeling of "the great unknown" is never before seen procedurally generated lifeforms down on accessible atmospheric planets, more space phenomena, perhaps a few non-spacefaring primitive civilizations, some completely unexpected and unexplained mysterious artifacts somewhere in space etc.

As far as I am concerned not everything needs to be explained or justified by the devs. They could just add some gigantic planet sized monolith floating in space somewhere and never tell us what it is about or how it came to be there. Just a few big unexplained mysteries we might or might not even discover would be cool.
What we need is the mere possibility of stuff like that too find for us. Numerous unique discoverable things need to be out there.

Or what about a ginormous indestructible Dyson sphere. It does not have to be accessible by us. There could be the most advanced civilization in there that is completely isolationists in nature and they might completely ignore anything outside their Dyson sphere. We might only be able to look at it from the outside. I think something like that would be magnificent.

 

[Iskariot]

Still?
Never was.
For me THE space game is Homeworld. The original game.

I think that is a mix up of categories. It is like comparing Chess with Windsurfing.
I love the Homeworld series, but it is not in the same category as a game like ED.

 

[EUS]

I think that is a mix up of categories. It is like comparing Chess with Windsurfing.
I love the Homeworld series, but it is not in the same category as a game like ED.

Along with mixing tenses, the title of this OP states that ED is THE space game.
I disagree.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Along with mixing tenses, the title of this OP states that ED is THE space game.
I disagree.

Well, if we are going to haggle over the thread title, perhaps it should be "Those who think ED is THE space game now, do you think it will be in 12 months? Those who think ED is NOT THE space game now, do you think it can become it in 12 months? Those who think TJ is to blame, you're right!"

 

[cpbtrading]

You see, to me Space Engineers seems more like a tree-puncher crafting/survival game with a space theme, just like NMS.

I'm glad you enjoy it, but that doesn't interest me in the slightest.

Obviously the view from someone that hasn't played it..

Haven't found any trees in space.

[video=youtube;i7Cq4UIfEGs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Cq4UIfEGs[/video]

 

[Dutchman141]

I haven't read all pages but to answer the OP's question, yes ED will be THE spacegame for me simply because I'm on Xbox and there are no other purely spacegames available.
NMS takes place in space but O wouldn't call it a pure space game since most activities take place on planets.
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw looks cool but is from a total different order.

ED is actualy quite unique on Xbox and no competition is in sight right now.

This doesn't automatically mean that ED will be THE game for me to play the coming twelve months or after that, that depends on what Q4 or the next big thing will turn out to be.

 

[EUS]

Well, if we are going to haggle over the thread title, perhaps it should be "Those who think ED is THE space game now, do you think it will be in 12 months? Those who think ED is NOT THE space game now, do you think it can become it in 12 months? Those who think TJ is to blame, you're right!"

This calls for a poll!
Ah crap, can't, as TJ removed that ability.