Damn, that's worrying...
I have never tried that ship trick. Is it not frowned upon when doing a circumnavigation?
Ariel circumnavigation
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Damn, that's worrying...
I have never tried that ship trick. Is it not frowned upon when doing a circumnavigation?
Well, it's not like you're actually getting IN the ship, and all it can do is boost you straight up and not actually carry you anywhere so yeah, I reckon as an emergency measure it's fine.
The best option I've seen in this thread so far may be this screenshot from Florenus ..
I might see if I can find that and drive it out tomorrow.
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I did got out of that big canyon.
This was more or less road I took:
compared to original plan i did my drive down on the opposite side of that promontory, as it seemed more gentle:
The climb looks easy when you're there
although in reality its 45 or 50 degrees all the time and engine sounds like it's going to die
so I did a lot of "zigzagging" on my way up
This was more or less road I took:
The climb looks easy when you're there
Excellent stuff Florenus. Can I draw your attention to the following, would love to see you there!
Truckers-up-Teide-the-In-Game-Challenge!-11th-November
Truckers-up-Teide-the-In-Game-Challenge!-11th-November
Thanks
I'm not too good at driving fast though.
Also, I must say, that after doing that bit I have much, much (much, much) more appreciation of the challenge behind circumnavigating the whole moon.
Jonas, you're true explorer and inspiration
Also, I must say, that after doing that bit I have much, much (much, much) more appreciation of the challenge behind circumnavigating the whole moon.
Jonas, you're true explorer and inspiration
Thanks for the kind words. It's highly unlikely I would make it without the help of yourself and Alec...
@Alec @Florenus
Can you guys confirm that the northern area of Ariel is always in the daylight? I have not yet seen any nighttime pictures from you guys so it might be that due to the tilt and being tidally locked, that specific area is always in the light. I doubt if I can cross it during nighttime. The last canyon I crossed was in the dark and it was quite horrendous. It didn't look half as bad as what you guys have shown here...
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It's certainly been gloomy (see some of my earlier posts: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...umnavigation?p=7113015&viewfull=1#post7113015) but full dark I don't know about.
It certainly got brighter since I did those first shots yesterday and keeps that way. Not sure for how long, although I believe it might never get completely dark here.
I just flew over the southernmost narrow canyon to show you how it looks like.
The middle:
After that I flew over to check the other side of the big canyon, just to be sure we're not missing some opportunity.
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A trip within a trip, a circumnavigation within a circumnavigation... it's all here on the Planet of Fun!! I had to drive around this inconspicuous looking canyon as upon inspection it was just not at all crossable. I had to go from 160 East to 172 East, so that's another 120 kilometers to the tally. If I look at the system map and the actual pictures of it, I can't begin to imagine what that big canyon further north will be like. Anyhoo... I had to make a choice, east or west around this baby and I choose east just by peeking with the outside camera and the route east looked easier. Hardly any bumps just easy drivable plains. And indeed it was easy enough to go around it. Towards the end the canyon just disappeared into a easily crossable gully.
Oh... deeeeeeeep and steeeeep :-o
Can we jump yet?
Edit: Yeah, jumping was considered many times but the chances of getting out alive were slim at best. The bottom was flat enough but more or less disappeared as the canyon carried on eastward. I guess that a couple of kilometers towards its end I could have chanced it but it was so narrow towards the bottom, I would never have gotten out in case I would screw up the jump. So no...
Oh... deeeeeeeep and steeeeep :-o
Can we jump yet?
Edit: Yeah, jumping was considered many times but the chances of getting out alive were slim at best. The bottom was flat enough but more or less disappeared as the canyon carried on eastward. I guess that a couple of kilometers towards its end I could have chanced it but it was so narrow towards the bottom, I would never have gotten out in case I would screw up the jump. So no...
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Heretical thought, perhaps, but if you continued East a little longer, then headed North, you would have bypassed the head of the canyon of Doom, and been able to hand-rail it's Northern edge until you got to the latitude you wanted to be at to continue your circumnavigation back to the starting spot.
wait a minute... you're telling me it can be jumped over? I must admit that I wasn't considering this technique when doing reconnaissance...
Heretical thought, perhaps, but if you continued East a little longer, then headed North, you would have bypassed the head of the canyon of Doom, and been able to hand-rail it's Northern edge until you got to the latitude you wanted to be at to continue your circumnavigation back to the starting spot.
Nooooooooooooooooo... I'm heading for the Big Tamale, the Canyon of Doom!!!
OK - if I were you I think I'd head right a bit to get an easier route over the next canyon.
As for the two close/parallel canyons after that, well - I managed to get over them so it's definitely possible. See this post for a reminder of my route:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...umnavigation?p=7113288&viewfull=1#post7113288
And as for the final BIG canyon, all I can say is ...
Ian Phillips
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Something I've been meaning to ask for some time.... how do you measure the depth of the canyons?
Well, sometimes you can jump a canyon but the conditions must be VERY right. The side you jump from must be considerably higher than your target side and there has to be a sloping run up to the departure point so one can build enough speed.
Earlier I considered an air bridge (we did one on the Crab Nebula Expedition, if I remember correctly) with big broad ships (like a Python) and hop from ship to ship. As fun as it would have been, it was flagged down as not being in spirit with a circumnavigation, and rightly so.
So, not to worry. The chances we find a suitable jump point are very slim and I'm not sure I'm willing to bet the trip on it
Thanks, will do
You can only measure them from within your ship: fly level ground, position over canyon, watch altimeter -> canyon depth
I'm starting on the edge, where altimeter shows around 0m, then fly at the same level towards centre. Big canyon is around 8 -10km deep
Ian Phillips
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I meant - from an SRV Can't fly when circumnavigating!
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Ah. Read all the posts before replying!
Can't fly when circumnavigating!Edit:
Ah. Read all the posts before replying!
I meant - from an SRV
Well, if you can jump across, then you can do it the same way