Hardware & Technical CH Pro throttle Questions

[deanom59]

Looking for some help.
Does anybody have a layout for the CH pro throttle that they could share as a starting point?
Am particularly interested in how the mode switching has been used (and how that's done).
If combined with a CH 'stick, are you using pedals for yaw or mapping to one of the buttons (and which one)?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Shadowdancer]

The mode switching on CH devices is a bit weird and of little use with Elite since it shows up as three buttons (one per mode and the one corresponding to the current mode is permanently pressed, so it's something like "green" is a permanently pressed button 16, "yellow" is button 17, and "red" button 18). Theoretically you could map it to functions that support "hold" binds, but you'd need to edit the binds file for that, since a mode change will be detected as [Ministick push]+[Button for current mode]. I'm not using it on the throttle at all. On the stick, I'm using the mode button (index finger above the trigger) in combination with others which also requires manual editing of the binds file to get rid of the mode indicator. Currently [Stick mode]+[Trigger] toggles hardpoints, and [Stick mode]+[Joy2] opens and closes the FSS view in beta.

I have it set up as full-range throttle axis, the front three buttons are (left to right) thrust direction, chaff, and boost, the front 4-way has TrackIR centre and suspend on left and right and flight assist toggle on down, the ministick is for thrusters left/right and up/down (with a huge deadzone), bottom side 4-way switch has heatsink and silent running on forward and back. I think the upper 4-way does something with targets, but I do so little combat that I honestly can't remember The PoV hat is currently not in use.

In the new FSS, the ministick is used for tuning

And I'm using pedals for yaw and SRV steering; ergonomically it's nice to have that kind of footrest and it frees up some dexterity to make better use of the sticks.

 

[Morbad]

The button on the throttle that changes the color of the light is my FA On/Off toggle. I haven't bothered with any mode switching as I find the buttons on hand to be (just barely) sufficient without it on my full CH setup.

I use forward only throttle, with forward/reverse thrust override bound to my rudder's toebreaks. I used the CH software to bind both toe breaks into a single, centering, full range, axis for this.

Main pedals axis is yaw and SRV steering.

 

[Para Handy]

My setup is all CHPro plus Cougar MFDs.

I don't actually use the press-button of the mini-stick. I have found no need for mode switching at all, even with the new additional binds in the beta.

I have pedals but I no longer map them in Elite (I use them in sims all the time though) as it just felt too weird to me in Elite. I have two methods of yaw control, one is button for yaw left and yaw right - using fore and back of the Fighterstick bishop-HAT. The more precise control is by binding the stick's pinky-switch to a press-to-hold "Yaw to Roll" function - that way holding this in and moving the stick left and right gives left and right yaw control. It has turned out to be remarkably easy to get used to.

Here is a view of my current (non-Beta) bindings for the throttle and stick:

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Note that assigning the CHPro mode-switch buttons requires manually editing the binds file. This is because each time you press it you get one of three combinations, in sequence. So after making an assignment in E D - you then open the binds file and edit that key entry to remove the "+ Joy**" (or something like that).

P.S. The reason I don't assign the mini-stick mode button is that I find I often press it by accident when using the mini-stick.

P.P.S. I don't use CH Control manager at all, just calibrate in windoze.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

I didn't use any mode switching on the CH throttle.

Instead I used the two front buttons as modifier buttons changing what the hats and other buttons did, the third was my invert thrust axis, (full range is simply out of the question) and unlike the mode switch to get back to default you simply don't hold the button in, the mode has to be cycled back to default.

So say by default one would be my targeting hat, E.g target forward, next and previous, with left most button it would be, target hostiles, highest, next-previous and since it's free next system on-route, this also work as a target deselect button.

With the middle button it would be wingmen, target 1-3, and target wingman's target etc.

I have since swapped hotas so mostly going by memory here, but here is a chart of my old bind's

https://edrefcard.info/binds/saztnj

Spoiler

 

[deanom59]

Thanks all
Plenty of variety and lots to think about.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Only right way is the way that work for you.
And don't worry about thinking outside the box

 

[Noogillim]

Don't forget you can use multiple combined inputs off controls to perform a selection, when you've max out you control assignments. It's how I currently select the HUD mode change selection as I didn't want to alter (my messy existing) the setup so I select a comfortable pair of switches from the throttle and combat stick.

I keep meaning to sit down and make a more meaningful CH setup as I have multiple controller 1 inputs that get confusing when setting up new options.

It works but my layout would confuse most people, my broken ankle restricted me a little as I use the pedals to steer and control the throttle on my buggy (as well as fine throttle for landings)

I never got to grips with the built in modes on the throttle.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Indeed.
using modifier buttons, not modes is how most get by.

I had the pro throttle and fighterstick.
Both feature three, 4-way hats each.
And by holding one of my designate mode buttons those six hats become 72 different mappable bindings.

 

[Morbad]

Indeed.
using modifier buttons, not modes is how most get by.

I had the pro throttle and fighterstick.
Both feature three, 4-way hats each.
And by holding one of my designate mode buttons those six hats become 72 different mappable bindings.

I had a fairly comfortable setup going with my CH stuff with no modes or modifiers until the 3.3 beta came along...finally bit the bullet and moved some things around to get a good modifier button and move the last few of my keyboard binds, including the new exploration stuff, to the HOTAS.