Don't even watch the troll feeding
Don't even watch the troll feeding
Bob Lighthouse
Banned
The advice stands!
Of course I read it, lol.
It seems despite you being so "experienced" you don't even have a grasp of the basics down.
What you're describing as problems, are in fact easy to resolve, even for a beginner as the first video shows.
That's all the help said newbie needs.
Since you apparently were not in a position to give that help, I handed it to you.
What you do with it now is up to you, and I suggested that you empower yourself.
You have no plausible deniability now.
Want to help newbies?
Give them good advise.
Don't mollycoddle them!
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The Replicated Man
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Excellent point. Who stands by and watches a noob get stomped by a vicious griefer?
OP, if you’re a new player you absolutely shouldn’t be afraid to play in Solo Play. There’s a ton to learn and talking things one step at a time is perfect.
To try and shame new players for that, especially in the context of the rest of your rant, is nuts.
To try and shame new players for that, especially in the context of the rest of your rant, is nuts.
Meeting other players is still significantly more likely in Open.
Mobius and Mobius PVE are maxed, they are now on regional PVE offerings. When 80 k players vote for a PVE mode, the devs really should consider PVE Open.
At this point we've beat the horse into pink slime on this topic though.
There are a few solutions to avoid players like that... block them so you aren’t instanced with them again, play in a PVE group or go solo. It is frustrating when things are so imbalanced, but this topic has been done to death and there’s nothing new to be said...
it is what it is at this point, and, wherever you land on the issue, at least there are options to help you “get out of the system”.
it is what it is at this point, and, wherever you land on the issue, at least there are options to help you “get out of the system”.
Was the OP the attacker?
AP Birdman
Banned
Wow, another one of these threads.....
Bob Lighthouse
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AP Birdman
Banned
Oh, so you dictate what is acceptable pvp and what isn't? Fantastic!
No I skimmed what you said because it's the same ridiculous complaint time and time again.
The question is: have YOU read the countless threads on this forum of people making the same ridiculous complaint that you are and the countless number of players giving reasonable and helpful responses to it?
I’m not reading all of that, but judging by the title and first few lines, it’s whining.
Someone sum this up for me so I can help OP.
Someone sum this up for me so I can help OP.
Not everyone finds it as complicated as you or the player you witnessed, nor do they lament having to learn how to do so. Nobody disputes the learning curve of the game, but results may vary. With this update a bought a copy for a mate, who started playing from scratch and while still learning it - is enjoying the process. I can only imagine that we don't play in the same timezone as you and your people - as everyone I play with is still waiting for this ganking we hear so much about. (player ages from brand new to 1800 hours)
AP Birdman
Banned
Something, something, someone got blown up for no reason, something, something, open is full of griefers.
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You don't need to compete with anyone in this way, unless your goal is to overcome them in a violent confrontation. The bar for escape is far lower than for combat parity, and if you aren't frequenting CGs, Shinrarta, or other dangerous hotspots, you'll rarely be accosted.
I frequently fly completely unengineered vessels out of heavily populated systems, in Open, without issue. While I am not personally a casual player, I know plenty of essentially exclusively Open play players that are exemplars of the term, and they do fine.
yea this whole thread is baited, i get and hour and a half a week in and i have every ship in the game,pvp is easy to avoid if you have more than a handfull of brain cells (no offense)
But you know the game - this is different - that is just like I would say EVE isn't any dangerous as long as you stay in high security space. A newbie will experience this in a different way, whereas for me it would be just as I said, even if I would just fly newbie ships - because I know what to do and what not to do. The same is not valid for a newbie and so he/she will make a quite different experience in the same environment.
Don't make me laugh, kiddo. Hisec being safe?
Anyway back on topic; The problem is the extreme biased against the victim. While the attacker has all the advantages and gets away scott free. I can understand having to try to make the AI balanced, but come on man. Elite NPCs are a sideshow joke. The only true hard NPCs are Thargoids, but not everyone even cares about that portion of the game at all(and they may never either for all we know).
Fix the NPCs to behave far more aggressive as their ranks go higher, and for god's sake put engineering back on them. If it's okay for players to one-shot newbies and tell em to "git gud" and expect them to go all "Oh thank you for killing me sir may I have another?"
Yet the INSTANT any NPC is even the slightest bit difficult oh no everybody loses their minds.
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No it isn't.
No it isn't. All games I play I consider to be "solo player enjoyed games", including Elite Dangerous.
Of course that is just my preference, but so is multi player, if that is your thing.
A new player can choose whether he wants to accept the extra risk of Open or not.
When you are new to the game, and busy learning the basics, it is not recommended to do this in a more risky Open environment, with all kinds of miscreants trying to make you their content.
In a multiplayer environment there always are people with severe character flaws (like the noob killers you mentioned), who do not care about the fun of others. That simply is a given.
If you still want to choose open, then you can, but it is you who is taking the risk.
No it isn't. I have become averse to any form of multiplayer because of gankers and griefers. I would never excuse their actions. I am disgusted by miscreants like that.
I simply pragmatically accept the situation as it is and have drawn a simple, straightforward conclusion: I can't be bothered at my age with this nonsense anymore.
I also do not want to get involved in an arms race with people who have maxed out player killer ships. My ships are not maxed out, nor are they build for PvP.
The first 2 years or so I did play in Open. I only had a few encounters with nasty folk, but because I had mastered the space flight mechanics of ED, they never succeeded in catching me.
Since the engineers and with the added wing mechanic Open has become more hazardous for soloists like me. That is why I now only play solo.
It is infinitely more fun as far as I am concerned.
And anyway... if I want to play ED with others I can still join a friendly PvE group.
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