the FSS, watching paint dry....

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Those of you worthy may apply for my squadron - "True Explorers [TREX]".

Those who are not can join Ziggy's "Hopelessly Lost Tourists [HELP]" squadron instead ;)

Please LOL, as that's the intention :D
How can I lol with such a botched acronym? It's HLT no matter how you slice it.

If people want to join Ziggy's 1,700 LY away from quitting this game [1700LYAFQTG], they would have to be quick :)

4,200 commanders have signed up with the DW2 expedition.
As they should. DWE was the best gaming experience for me bar none. I hope many other players will suffer the same fate.

Even if they are doubtful they should go. I was as well, Beagle Point is a long way away. But I figured I can always turn back if it gets to be too much. Once on the trip I never considered turning back for a millisecond. With that much players around it, it really felt like having a mini bubble going along with you.

I'm all for immersion. I immerse fully. Thing is, to me fss ENHANCES, immersion since it's me peeping into a sweet space telescope and zooming in on spacestuff. Much more immersive than a instant show planets button. Like, if one partakes in this psycho-whiney vibe going on
Psycho-whiney vibe eh? Stopped reading there. Just you wait until Sleutel comes here and derides you for using such derogatory lan ....

That puzzles me a bit too. If people dont like the FSS and want it gone, okay I get it. But the old DSS 'wait for x seconds' and old ADS 'hold button for x seconds' are so minimal, having literally nothing instead would be better: instant auto-honk on entrance and instant resolving when pointing at them. And at that point, what would be the advantage of ED over, say, Space Engine?
Oh yeah ... RymdLazer likes the FSS. It's only those who don't like the FSS that trigger you.

Rymd darling, if you are really so confused, maybe read a post or two. Helps enormously with understanding other people's points of view. That is, if that is your intention.
 
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How can I lol with such a botched acronym? It's HLT no matter how you slice it.

If people want to join Ziggy's 1,700 LY away from quitting this game [1700LYAFQTG], they would have to be quick :)


As they should. DWE was the best gaming experience for me bar none. I hope many other players will suffer the same fate.

Even if they are doubtful they should go. I was as well, Beagle Point is a long way away. But I figured I can always turn back if it gets to be too much. Once on the trip I never considered turning back for a millisecond. With that much players around it, it really felt like having a mini bubble going along with you.


Psycho-whiney vibe eh? Stopped reading there. Just you wait until Sleutel comes here and derides you for using such derogatory lan ....


Oh yeah ... RymdLazer likes the FSS. It's only those who don't like the FSS that trigger you.

Rymd darling, if you are really so confused, maybe read a post or two. Helps enormously with understanding other people's points of view. That is, if that is your intention.

You'll have to forgive Sleut for his inconsistency - he's admitted he doesn't read his own posts, which makes it difficult to maintain a consistent stance.
 
So is the mook jong and corded drill standing and laying over there respectively in my man cave.

But they operate as very useful and especially efficient tools for what I use them for as is at minimum, the FSS.

A whole new role playing avenue was created. With the efficiency of the FSS to find and identify the details of USS's and npc's requiring aid has, well for me at least, created a quantum leap in
enjoyable gameplay.

Those repair and non planetary data scanning scenarios were really well done, and adds a new way to help minor factions in war and non war states.

If they keep "steady as she goes" with this quality of gameplay additions, the forward skies are quite blue.

OP-Think of the FSS a tool and do as Bruce Lee suggested and look beyond the pointed finger and see the moon
 
So is the mook jong and corded drill standing and laying over there respectively in my man cave.

But they operate as very useful and especially efficient tools for what I use them for as is at minimum, the FSS.

Yes indeed, the right tool for the job...

The problem is being told to use that tool when it's not the way you personally want to do the job, or perhaps don't even want to do the job at all!

(In other words, you are obliged to use the FSS to scan a body to see whether you actually want to scan a body... What happens when it turns out you didn't?) :D
 
You'll have to forgive Sleut for his inconsistency - he's admitted he doesn't read his own posts, which makes it difficult to maintain a consistent stance.

Yes, I am a magician who writes posts while simultaneously not knowing what is in them. :)

Oh yeah ... RymdLazer likes the FSS. It's only those who don't like the FSS that trigger you.

I think you mis-read. There are numerous different issues people have with the FSS, and while I disagree I can understand most of those positions (either wanting a visual cue via the ADS, or wanting a less informative FSS for example). Heck, I even posted numerous proposals to get as much of what people want into the new system, even though there is zero benefit to that for me. One position I do not understand very much is the people who enjoyed the old ADS. It is not about preferring the results of that system (that is just an opinion, fine), but mechanic-wise it seems logical to me that the pressing of the ADS itself wasn't a very interesting thing for anyone. And as such I dont see why people wouldn't ask for an auto-honk. If you're going to press one button every time you enter a system, and there is zero further involvement in the act of pressing that button, why have that button be there? A button only serves a purpose if there are reasons for not pressing it. That is irrespective to FSS or no FSS, just something I dont get about the honk itself.

Sleutel still has credit. A month or so ago he displayed fair judgement.

There is good in him.

Thank you for your confidence. :p Seriously though, already in beta (and in this topic) I suggested ways to combine what we have with some of the old stuff. Those posts typically get ignored though, the ball starts rolling when you point out a fallacy or inconsistency. Which is also a bit odd, because a more productive response would be "good catch, I'll re-phrase so my position is now stronger and FD has more reason to take it seriously." Don't forget, Rhymd, me and anyone who likes what we have don't need to present strong cases for anything. We arent trying to convince FD of anything, make them change their mind in any way. You do.

But that is the way of the internet. "you are wrong! No, you are wrong!" gets you to 50 pages. Detailed, well-thought out proposals don't. :D But I wonder which one gets more traction with FD devs...
 
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4,200 commanders have signed up with the DW2 expedition. Only a handful have withdrawn because they disliked the new exploration mechanics.

In truth, you have no way to know how many of those 4200 have withdrawn. I'm still in the roster, been looking forward to DWE2 all year right until the exploration reveal stream, but I sure as hell won't be pointing at circles all across the galaxy and back. Pretty sure I ain't the only one in that roster that is no longer going.
 
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sleutelbos;7274813… One position I do not understand very much is the people who [I said:
enjoyed[/I] the old ADS. It is not about preferring the results of that system (that is just an opinion, fine), but mechanic-wise it seems logical to me that the pressing of the ADS itself wasn't a very interesting thing for anyone. And as such I dont see why people wouldn't ask for an auto-honk. If you're going to press one button every time you enter a system, and there is zero further involvement in the act of pressing that button, why have that button be there? A button only serves a purpose if there are reasons for not pressing it.

I can't remember readying a comment where the commenter claimed they enjoyed pressing the ADS button. What people, from what I've read, enjoyed was the uncomplicated way to get the result of the ADS and therefore an uncomplicated way to get to the starting point of what they considered the enjoyable part of exploration.

In my opinion FDev could have removed the button press for the ADS, as you said it serves no real purpose and an auto-honk would just work as nicely.
Simply because the system map was not the goal of those explorers, it was the starting point.
 
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In addition, I feel the waterfall effect and the pulsating are really straining my eyes after a few hours of play, they feel very uncomfortable. And apparently, others have problems with migraines.

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I was starting to think it may be having an effect, but said noting.. else i get accused of wearing a 'core-dynamic-composite plated tungsten hat'

but there may be a reason it's hurting some people's eyes and head (prolonged use). we as human (and thargoids) automatically try to resolve nebulous shapes (always wanted to use the word nebulous:p) and part from that, we are trying to spot one type of fussiness over another (the waterfall over the blobs we want to target).
 
So anyone else find this incredibly boring? I think I'm going to quit while I'm ahead here, way too many controls to map and rather confusing to boot.[where is it] Heading back to bubble to try out the new mining. Hope you die hard explorers have fun!

Boring??....it's excellent i am 15k away from the bubble and still heading away from known space. I have found earth worlds, water worlds, gas giants, bio and geo sites, and asto bodies. It just keep getting better!!!
 
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In addition, I feel the waterfall effect and the pulsating are really straining my eyes after a few hours of play, they feel very uncomfortable. And apparently, others have problems with migraines.

Let's be honest now, staring at a computer screen for hours on end is not good for our eyes, period.

Speaking of waterfall, trying staring at an actual sonar waterfall in a nuclear submarine for hours on end. You'll come back singing the praises of the FSS. Perhaps that's why I love it so much....

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