It's time for a steamcharts thread!

I think it's due to sale price which is almost free to play rather than 3.3 update (with 3.3 recent reviews showing mixed 55% which is very bad).
Holiday sale did it's part, and bugs did it's part on reviews!
 
I think it's due to sale price which is almost free to play rather than 3.3 update (with 3.3 recent reviews showing mixed 55% which is very bad).
Holiday sale did it's part, and bugs did it's part on reviews!

The funny/sad part of it is that if you look at a huge number of the negative reviews, a lot of them had trouble with the actual game registration process, got frustrated and then refunded. So a lot of the negative reviews have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself, and more to do with the registration process.
 
The funny/sad part of it is that if you look at a huge number of the negative reviews, a lot of them had trouble with the actual game registration process, got frustrated and then refunded. So a lot of the negative reviews have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself, and more to do with the registration process.

Just scrolled and didn't see any negative review regarding registration process.
Most of the negative reviews are made by ppl who played old Elite stating graphics are beautiful while gemeplay lacks, bad gameplay design and usual wide as a ocean bla bla bla comments.
But ppl change reviews all the time so it may change too in the future as new things being implemented so let's forget about reviews.
My original point was that really low sale price of 14€ for ED+dlc dragged in so many players rather than 3.3 update.
Overall it could be good move by FD and future of the game, sell the game cheap to make big customer base and introduce new paid dlc which i hope they will soon.
That is very good move looking from marketing point of view if they aimed for that (and i have feeling they do).
I hope that was FD's plan
 
It's a silly thread, you don't need a reason to come here other than being silly.



Splendid work Cmdr.


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Inara showed more than 5000+ CMDRs in one single system before the Gnosis jumped. And I believe I read somewhere there was over 10000 ship onboard.

Elite has the advantage of being really cheap and a good tech demo for VR. It's an ideal timeframe to grow this game into a masterpiece, assuming they get ther skit together and stop pushing bloom filters for graphical updates.
 
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Just scrolled and didn't see any negative review regarding registration process.
Most of the negative reviews are made by ppl who played old Elite stating graphics are beautiful while gemeplay lacks, bad gameplay design and usual wide as a ocean bla bla bla comments.
But ppl change reviews all the time so it may change too in the future as new things being implemented so let's forget about reviews.
My original point was that really low sale price of 14€ for ED+dlc dragged in so many players rather than 3.3 update.
Overall it could be good move by FD and future of the game, sell the game cheap to make big customer base and introduce new paid dlc which i hope they will soon.
That is very good move looking from marketing point of view if they aimed for that (and i have feeling they do).
I hope that was FD's plan

Here's a selection of reviews I found from right around the time of release of 3.3, right when a bunch of new people would have been trying to register:

Registration refused by developer

Requires some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t DRM account and always-online rubbish that's not even mentioned on thew Steam page

Pros: I don’t know what the pros are because I could not even play the game.

Cons: I could not play the game because once I created an account for their third party, they refused to accept the Key code from steam even after linking the account. If you want to play this game, it looks like you need to get it from there site and not steam.

Bought the game, spent 6 hours downloading game, made 3rd party account for the game, just to be denied access because steam key isnt working

Need to register an account and the website doesn't even have a log in page, ended up searching it on Google. (Also very bad website design, looks like the fake ones that steal personal info)
Registered, but no sign of redeeming page anywhere in the website, googling it again.
Finally found the game key redeeming website, does not work at all, takes forever to load after putting in the key.
Refunded.

Looks like a fun game, too bad you have to create an account and go through a million steps through their stupid store instead of just playing the game you bought. It has wasted so much of my time only to freeze on their horribly made webpages... oh, and their website claims not to give refunds once you downloaded the game so thats amazing. ♥♥♥♥ these developers they obviously only have their mind on grabbing as much money from players as they can. Don't buy this game and support their horrible business practices.

doesnt work. Try to launch and the register page it brings me to is a blank black page with no option to proceed

Absolutely !$@#6*$-up sign up process.

I'm already annoyed to the point of asking for a refund and I haven't even started the game yet.
Points of contention include:
3rd party account creation.
Clicking Register on the Launcher brings up a blank screen so had to check the discussions page for the actual registration page.
Entering in "Billing Information" in order to link the key I already paid for.
Entering in commander name, hitting ok, enterting in ship name, hitting ok. Oh wait! Commander name was taken! Why. Didn't. You. Tell. Me. Before. I. Entered. In. The. Ship. Name.
Resolution settings not available in graphics settings in the login screen or the launcher screen.
This is where I gave up so it may get even worse. God speed you brave few.

Horible registration on the game website. Keep getting a black page when trying to redeem my game. Havent been able to play since i'm stuck registering.



These are the overwhelming majority of negative reviews between December 12 and 13, when there was a huge spike in negatives. Either people are dumb or registration is hard. Probably a combo of the two.
 
I made a post elsewhere that echoes what you've said but it was more to do with the OP's "yay ED has never been more popular" coz steam said so - yet steam charts only get used when it makes ED look GOOD.

When someone else shows a chart that makes ED look bad they say "ahh, well you see now, the steam charts are wrong and dont show the TRUE story, it's all biased, blah blah etc etc".

and yeah high numbers after an update DO mean nothing because a significant portion of those are RETURNING accounts who are curious - some MIGHT stay, other's won't.

It's also an extremely interesting side note that I guesstimated ED's all time high, 15,000 and I was only a few thousand out, which is still only HALF Eve Online's DAILY NORMAL NUMBERS - 32,000

The thread in question was crowing ED was BEATING Eve onlines numbers by a large margin - which could not be further from the truth and NEVER will be.

Data collection has changed dramatically due to default changes on the users ends, so long term conclusions like that are not really valid.

What they are doing now is cooking the books, instead of actually counting.
Now assuming it's valid cooking they are doing it could still show trends correctly, but using proxies and assumptions isn't data collection per se.
And it's very poor form to compare the old data set with the new.
 
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Data collection has changed dramatically due to default changes on the users ends, so long term conclusions like that are not really valid.

What they are doing now is cooking the books, instead of actually counting.
Now assuming it's valid cooking they are doing it could still show trends correctly, but using proxies and assumptions isn't data collection per se.
And it's very poor form to compare the old data set with the new.

If the data confirms my personal opinions it is always valid.[up]
 
Just scrolled and didn't see any negative review regarding registration process.

I recommend visiting your nearby opticians. Here is a screengrab of the reviews page now (with filters selected as shown) - highlighted in yellow are "registration issues" reviews, and for laughs highlighted in orange are "too difficult, can't learn" reviews:

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I recommend visiting your nearby opticians. Here is a screengrab of the reviews page now (with filters selected as shown) - highlighted in yellow are "registration issues" reviews, and for laughs highlighted in orange are "too difficult, can't learn" reviews:


Nah, not shown like that on my smartphone....sorry!
So instead me going to optician, you can put down your shiny white armor, leave room and go anywhere to take a rest from the forum.
Other white knights will cover you for a while :)
 
I recommend visiting your nearby opticians. Here is a screengrab of the reviews page now (with filters selected as shown) - highlighted in yellow are "registration issues" reviews, and for laughs highlighted in orange are "too difficult, can't learn" reviews:

Apparently my account status doesn't let me post without mod apporoval, so thanks for making my point. By the time this message posts the subject will have long moved on. Oh well.

In any case, the steep learning curve is what keeps me coming back to this game. The fact that I have put in nearly 200 hours in less than a month, and still have yet to even scratch the surface of all that the game has to offer, is an amazing thing to see in a game. I want to get my money's worth and this game is delivering in spades. It's unfortunate that so many people want an easy quick game they can learn in 2 seconds. That takes the fun out of it in my opinion. Learning the game mechanics, refining the controls, finding bits and pieces of information to help you along your journey to perfect your ship performance, are all part of the fun.
 
Data collection has changed dramatically due to default changes on the users ends, so long term conclusions like that are not really valid.

What they are doing now is cooking the books, instead of actually counting.
Now assuming it's valid cooking they are doing it could still show trends correctly, but using proxies and assumptions isn't data collection per se.
And it's very poor form to compare the old data set with the new.
You are correct that Steam changed its data-sharing policy to be in line with GDPR (which affected SteamSpy's gathering of Game Ownership stats) but the rest of what you say is incorrect regarding SteamDB and SteamCharts.

SteamCharts and SteamDB gather the Concurrent Players stat directly off the Steam Community page for each game. There isn't any need for "cooking the books" because the Concurrent Players data is, and always has been, publicly available for anyone to see and record. The data on both SteamCharts/SteamDB can be directly compared to before Steam's GDPR-changes because their data collection wasn't affected.

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Sometimes I wonder if people are actually capable of learning and researching things, or just rely on Chinese Whispers for information. I guess the latter; no wonder the Daily Mail is popular.

And it's very poor form to act superior when suffering from a lack of knowledge.
 
Nah, not shown like that on my smartphone....sorry!
So instead me going to optician, you can put down your shiny white armor, leave room and go anywhere to take a rest from the forum.
Other white knights will cover you for a while :)
I am truly sorry for pointing out that you were completely wrong. Nice meltdown btw :)
 
Remarkably consistent over the years.

correct. except regular depressions in steamcharts have traditionally been used by trollish agents to predict doom which prompted the formation, to great forum excitement, of the high order of templars of statistical denial. which nowadays seem to get aroused by ... regular spikes in steamcharts, go figure.

yes, consistently funny!
 
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Well, it's always time for a steamcharts thread, even though they tend to be silly. Or maybe precisely because they tend to be silly!

Anyway, Elite Dangerous just reached the highest average concurrent player number since it launched on steam.
https://steamcharts.com/app/359320

Now if these numbers are anything to go by (they probably aren't) that means the game has never been more popular, which is quite an achievement for a 4 years old game.
So despite being buggy, 3.3 seems to be a pretty good update. Well done FDEV (apart from the bugs)!

PS
Oh, and it would be nice if some of the doomsayers who argued for hours 3 months ago could come here and show some videos of them eating their socks. Thanks!

So are you saying they are reliable or not?
 
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