If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.

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And I shall continue attempting to express my distaste in any thread on the subject!

That sounds like a very repetitive mini-game...

Though I encourage you and the others to continue to do so in the most outrageous way possible. The more outrageous the better. The last thing I want is for Frontier to actually take you folks seriously ;)
 
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I fancy my chance of stating your point of view may have gained more sympathy should you have switched unproductive expression of distaste for productive alternative proposal.
I hope it's worth consideration.

I don’t give a damn about sympathy. I’m not here to offer a solution. I’m here to say I don’t like the FSS. I dont even want to discuss it. I only want to say, over and over again, in any related thread how I think it’s awful.

That’ll do me. :)
 
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That sounds like a very repetitive mini-game...

Though I encourage you and the others to continue to do so in the most outrageous way possible. The more outrageous the better. The last thing I want is for Frontier to actually take you folks seriously ;)

That works both way I'm afraid.
 
That sounds like a very repetitive mini-game...

Though I encourage you and the others to continue to do so in the most outrageous way possible. The more outrageous the better. The last thing I want is for Frontier to actually take you folks seriously ;)

I'm just going to say this once. Having a different opinion is absolutely fine, with well over two million accounts sold it would be far more remarkable if there was no dissenting view.

The smugness though and the glee in the fact that some people who have played the game for years are finding this has turned them off the game? Not a good look for you at all. I don't happen to think that you're an unpleasant person but it's despite your comments on this issue, not because of them.
 
I don’t give a damn about sympathy. I’m not here to offer a solution. I’m here to say I don’t like the FSS. I dont even want to discuss it. I only want to say, over and over again, in any related thread how I think it’s awful.

That’ll do me. :)

Just like a little brat: "I don't want my spinach! I want my pudding"

Maybe it's just the best to ignore those little brats.

And I thought Elite was a game for "elder" kids...like me. :p
 
Just like a little brat: "I don't want my spinach! I want my pudding"

Maybe it's just the best to ignore those little brats.

And I thought Elite was a game for "elder" kids...like me. :p

The ones who spent their time pointing and laughing at other players you mean? Or some other ones?
 
That sounds like a very repetitive mini-game...

Though I encourage you and the others to continue to do so in the most outrageous way possible. The more outrageous the better. The last thing I want is for Frontier to actually take you folks seriously ;)

I do steeplechases through GG satellite orbit lines... :)
 
Just like a little brat: "I don't want my spinach! I want my pudding"

Maybe it's just the best to ignore those little brats.

And I thought Elite was a game for "elder" kids...like me. :p

I’m not demanding anything. Please do ignore me.
 
- if you turn on the FSS while pointing away from the planets, you have no idea where to search for whatever is there.

Considering that the plane of ecliptic of the system is revealed after honking, I would say it narrows down the search region considerably.
Plus when you tune in to the type of planet you look for, white arrows start to appear when you get near object's position.

- You cannot select a body in the FSS. You have to revert back tot he System Map to select it. Why?

Yes, you can. I use Xbox One pad on PC and it's tied to "Y".

- It's buggy

Can't argue with that, though I haven't experienced any bugs myself. I think. Or can't remember one.

- It's not 3D.

Uhm... My monitor isn't either? Are you referring to VR?

- It takes eons longer to use the FSS instead of what we had.

That is a false statement and an oversimplification.
Considering what it took previously to completely scan entire system - flying down to each and every stellar body - it takes much less time now.
If you disagree, you fly to the planet 400.000Ls away, and I'll scan it from FSS - let's see who's faster.

- I get information faster by honk/visual scan of system map.

What information are you referring to? Surface composition? Planet's properties? POI location?
No, you can't have those faster by gazing at the system map.

The only thing you've gotten faster in the past is the system map with visual representation of planet types. That's it.

There, I've straightened out misinformation you're repeating, and replaced it with facts.
 
Cant blame people for repeating themself when frontiers reaction appears to be fingers in ears.

How to make a problem much much worse in one easy step.

Just like a little brat: "I don't want my spinach! I want my pudding"

If you dont eat yer meat, you cant have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if yer dont eat yer meat?
 
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The smugness though and the glee in the fact that some people who have played the game for years are finding this has turned them off the game? Not a good look for you at all. I don't happen to think that you're an unpleasant person but it's despite your comments on this issue, not because of them.

Hold up. You're likely focusing on a single comment, not commentS. Follow the trail in reverse, and you'll see I'm responding to someone saying that developer(s) at Frontier need to be disciplined because the FSS is so terrible. Are those the comments you want Frontier to take seriously? If so, then that makes you the unpleasant person.

If you trace back my post history even further, you'll see that I have supported the return of the ADS as the optional, separate module it once was. Heck, do a search for "Old Duck optional, separate module" if you don't believe me. Or ask Drew. If I ever become "smug and gleeful", it's in response to the vitriol that many in the anti-FSS crowd has levied against the FSS and Frontier. The fact that so many people do like the FSS means it is not garbage. So no, I don't want Frontier to take that claim seriously. Many of us believe they did an amazing job with the FSS. Again, if you do want Frontier to take those comments seriously, then you are the unpleasant person.

But as I've done before, I'll happily do again - anybody wants to create a thread nicely asking Frontier to bring back the ADS, I'll give that thread my full support.

BTW, I am an unpleasant person when it comes to year-old bugs, but unless the majority of players actually love ELB, then I think it's apples vs. oranges (and you'll note I changed my signature awhile back to be kinder and gentler).
 
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The ones who spent their time pointing and laughing at other players you mean? Or some other ones?

Those who are always complaining in every fragging thread that they don't like the FSS. The FSS is established and won't go...To complain about it is absolutely a waste of time and effort. But these are only my 2 credits.
 
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Those who are always complaining in every fragging thread that they don't like the FSS. The FSS is established and won't go...To complain about it is absolutely a waste of time and effort. But these are only my 2 credits.

Why do you say that and speak as if you have the authority of fdev? Do you have some inside info? I would suggest that if the uproar was such that the game was getting panned in forums round the place it would vanish pretty quick.
 
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Those who are always complaining in every fragging thread that they don't like the FSS. The FSS is established and won't go...To complain about it is absolutely a waste of time and effort. But these are only my 2 credits.

Funny in many of the posts and threads I have seen and read no one is seriously advocating the removal of the new system. What they have asked for is for the old system to be returned in some form even if it doesn't do the exact job it did before.
 
I don’t give a damn about sympathy. I’m not here to offer a solution. I’m here to say I don’t like the FSS. I dont even want to discuss it. I only want to say, over and over again, in any related thread how I think it’s awful.

That’ll do me. :)


I feel the same way...except I LOVE the new system!! It's great!!!! Solution? Too what? It's awesome!!
 
I don’t give a damn about sympathy. I’m not here to offer a solution. I’m here to say I don’t like the FSS. I dont even want to discuss it. I only want to say, over and over again, in any related thread how I think it’s awful.

That’ll do me. :)

Pardon me, that wasn't as clear as I intended. Allow me to rephrase:

"your point of view may have gained more Frontier's sympathy"

If it's still not worthy your consideration, then all I'm gonna say is don't be surprised there are no results.
Cheers.
 
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