Anti ADS people JUSTIFY your no compromise stance here.

[M00ka]

Yup this is true so we discuss what info the ADS honk reveals to keep as many happy as possible I think most would be happy with less info as long as they can use some skill to work out what is what.

No, this isn't a game built by committee, if it was PvP would be banned for starters, PowerPlay would never have got off the group, and Engineering would be more of a mess.

You asked for a compromise but how many compromises are you willing to allow. Just because someone might want hollow circles and someone else wants the full system map, why should one lose out to another. Come on you are trying to broker the peace here or something, you have to appease everyone

 

[Jukelo]

I seem to have lost multi quote again!

yes the FSS is more OP, because it's why I like it!! I can scan a system 500,000 ls away in seconds, in the old ADS way that would take 30-40+minutes....explain how that is not OP?

It's SO easy to find an ELW and WW via the FSS, you open up the FSS select the WW/ELW frequency and look around a bit, don't even have to fly there! So I twiddle a couple of knobs big deal (still find it fun and better than the ADS though). minimal effort maximum payout LESS time!

Yes it's quicker, but it's involved. You don't do an awful lot, but you still do a lot more than with the ADS which involved a lot of flying in straight line towards a distant destination - which required so little player input we, if we are being frank, spent a lot of time missing the window within which input was required, busy that we were alt-tabbing in and out of the game.
And in a video game, you always want to prioritize rewarding engagement over rewarding time spent.

 

[OBYOZ]

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[CmdMarty]

Its all about dev time for me.

Lol ya they have really shown that time was used wisely ads, cqc, pp, mc, and engineers ect.

 

[thistle]

Nope, all I said was selfish reasons are not valid, can't come up with a reason that isn't selfish?

It's just *your* opinion that all the reasons in other threads are "selfish".

I'm not sure it's a valid reason for creating a new thread on the topic, dismissing all the previous arguments you didn't agree with as "selfish".

 

[Factabulous]

I don't mind the FSS - it's fast once you know what you're doing, and you know if you found things.

I'm much more annoyed by this watching paint dry time:

 

[babelfisch]

If we continue discussing about the ADS it might be that we come up with the complete works of William Shakespeare.

There, that's my reason against it.

 

[OBYOZ]

Because if fdevs cater to any of the changes for a minority group, then are they going to set a president to allow changes from other minorities?

I expect...
I want a module with a button that I press once and it reveals everything in the galaxy, absolutely everything. Will they implement that please?

I also want a module for one jump to anywhere in the galaxy, it takes me too long to get to Sag A or beagle point. Can they implement that at the same time please.

Also people don't have to use my modules it if they don't want, it's optional.

I must reiterate that you can still get a system map, you just have to put more effort into it now.

Or explore the bubble, this fills the systmap, and I'm sure there's far more to discover. (Incl. Raxxla)

 

[Stigbob]

What about it? They are spending your time? They have all the time of the world. Its not like they are saving time to fix multicrew lol.

Yea yea i know multicrew works like a charm to you, i know..

I don't use multicrew I'm sure if I did I wouldn't be bitter and upset about it.

Anyway your personal bugbear batted swiftly to one side, dev time is better spent on new content and patches than a downgrade.

 

[kpmop]

I don't mind the FSS - it's fast once you know what you're doing, and you know if you found things.

I'm much more annoyed by this watching paint dry time:

It's even worse when it comes back with "None"!

 

[Marc_Hicks]

I don't mind the FSS - it's fast once you know what you're doing, and you know if you found things.

I'm much more annoyed by this watching paint dry time:

In fairness, you don't need to wait for those scans to complete though. That said, it'd be cool if our FSS could be engineered to scan these bodies faster. It'd also be nice to be able to travel faster than a full-stop whilst using the FSS UI, & also be able to move our ship in even the most limited fashion.

 

[Stigbob]

Lol ya they have really shown that time was used wisely ads, cqc, pp, mc, and engineers ect.

No point playing a game you don't like.

 

[Bigmaec]

Lol, indeed. 270 pages of the same ten dudes repeating the same few lines at each other, and now we need another topic for the same.

Whatever.

*shrugs* I've got nothing better to do I guess

 

[babelfisch]

OP, it might help if you add a line or two about how that compromise would look like before I tell you if and why I am against it.

 

[M00ka]

I don't mind the FSS - it's fast once you know what you're doing, and you know if you found things.

I'm much more annoyed by this watching paint dry time:

Yeah that annoys me as well but I role play it thinking that it must take time to find, locate and identify 50 odd geographical locations no matter how far away that little ball of ice or rock lol

 

[M00ka]

OP, it might help if you add a line or two about how that compromise would look like before I tell you if and why I am against it.

That's the problem Babel, no one knows exactly what compromise everyone wants. Maybe the OP's suggestion is we should have different flavours of compromise, so everyone is happy

 

[Jukelo]

I hope all this arguing doesn't give me ADS...

 

[Marc_Hicks]

It's even worse when it comes back with "None"!

As I said the Factabulous. It was Mengy who showed me-during beta-that resolving planets will continue even if you move to another planet. Saves a ton of time. I do still occasionally wait to see what is on a planet before moving on, though.

 

[Marc_Hicks]

Lol ya they have really shown that time was used wisely ads, cqc, pp, mc, and engineers ect.

Engineers & Multi-Crew are significantly better than they were pre-Beyond season, & the new exploration tools, whilst not perfect, are 100 times better than what we had. Powerplay is probably the next big thing due for fixing, as was being discussed around the middle of last year.

 

[Marc_Hicks]

Yeah that annoys me as well but I role play it thinking that it must take time to find, locate and identify 50 odd geographical locations no matter how far away that little ball of ice or rock lol

Like I said, you don't need to sit & watch it complete. It will complete even if you move on to another planet. If you go back to those planets, you'll see the scan has completed in the meantime.