What do you guys think of a minimum timer locking you in for conflict zones and powerplay zones?

[MottiKhan]

Or we can just play the game we have.

 

[Kaocraft]

Why?

Cool down timers are always bad.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Cool down timers are always bad.

Cooldown timers exist in almost every game today.

Hell, do you notice the time it takes to reload, deploy weapons and use a FSD once interdicted?

Why wouldn't they apply here as well?

There are tons of ICD's in this game.

 

[Ethaidan]

All penalties are a loss to you and your team. You're only hurting yourselves if you dont fight for them.

Thats the point of wars and powerplay.

So, it's a 100% unnecessary change/feature then. If I choose to retreat (whether boost, wake, log) than I am no longer there and you can carry on killing the NPCs until you win. Same result, you've driven me away, you win.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

So, it's a 100% unnecessary change/feature then. If I choose to retreat (whethervboost, wake, log) than I am no longer there and you can carry on killing the NPCs until you win. Same result, you've driven me away, you win.

But you also wouldn't be fighting at all. You wouldn't be risking anything if you could just leave. You wouldn't be working a conflict zone or powerplay zone. You would just leave. You really wouldnt lose anything personally either. Rebuys need a purpose.

If there is no reason for you to stay in them, people still wouldnt use half the modules and tools available in the game. Nor strive to change builds or work together because it wouldn't be needed.

There are enough options in this game to nope out of things as it is.

If people are there to farm and fight. Then they should be farming and fighting.

The timer would keep people locked in for a minimum amount of time. Not forever. People would still have the chance to run or leave.

But at some point people need to fight over these things.

 

[Factabulous]

 

[Asp Explorer]

If people are there to farm and fight. Then they should be farming and fighting.

I'd be there to point and laugh, move on and enjoy my gameplay which doesn't involve farming or fighting.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

Quite. We could almost be looking at a second Hotel California situation.

The irony of the idea as well is that it if you're not allowed to wake out of a CZ, this would also encourage combat logging, which seems to be something that most people who push for 'open only' have a big problem with.

 

[Siobhan]

But you also wouldn't be fighting at all. You wouldn't be risking anything if you could just leave. You wouldn't be working a conflict zone or powerplay zone. You would just leave. You really wouldnt lose anything personally either. Rebuys need a purpose.

If there is no reason for you to stay in them, people still wouldnt use half the modules and tools available in the game. Nor strive to change builds or work together because it wouldn't be needed.

There are enough options in this game to nope out of things as it is.

If people are there to farm and fight. Then they should be farming and fighting.

And why does this matter to you? If Ethaidan or anyone else leaves, or does not take part, or whatever... It changes nothing to you, except maybe makes your life a teeny bit easier. Certainly not much since I doubt many here would be any threat to your ships. All that changes is that you get one fewer player kills, a little less salt for the mill. You still win the battle either way.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

The irony of the idea as well is that it if you're not allowed to wake out of a CZ, this would also encourage combat logging, which seems to be something that most people who push for 'open only' have a big problem with.

Not really worried about that. They said they would eventually fix that issue.

So Im going to pretend its fixed and open only is already a thing.

Those points are basically moot in this conversation.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

And why does this matter to you? If Ethaidan or anyone else leaves, or does not take part, or whatever... It changes nothing to you, except maybe makes your life a teeny bit easier. Certainly not much since I doubt many here would be any threat to your ships. All that changes is that you get one fewer player kills, a little less salt for the mill. You still win the battle either way.

They also dont get to turn in those merits they earned. Which is the whole point of winning and losing. Its not just about combat zones. This has everything to do with macro and micro gameplay.

 

[Asp Explorer]

So Im going to pretend its fixed and open only is already a thing.

Except it isn't, and it's not, and there is nothing you or FD can do about a malicious player collapsing bandwidth for the lulz.

 

[Siobhan]

So Im going to pretend its fixed and open only is already a thing.

Which proves my earlier point that this is just another Open Only thread by stealth. The hotel is indeed healthy.

 

[Siobhan]

They also dont get to turn in those merits they earned. Which is the whole point of winning and losing. Its not just about combat zones. This has everything to do with macro and micro gameplay.

You still win. Let the other player worry about their merits or lack thereof.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Which proves my earlier point that this is just another Open Only thread by stealth. The hotel is indeed healthy.

If this is all you guys are worried about. Just go to another thread.

If this community cant get past that issue. There is a problem.

Get over it.

We arent talking about that.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

... I was wondering at what point we get to the stage where they fail to acknowledge everything that's already been said about multiple modes by Frontier.

So Im going to pretend its fixed and open only is already a thing.

And there we go...

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

You still win. Let the other player worry about their merits or lack thereof.

They should have to worry about them while they are in the zone as well.

 

[Siobhan]

They should have to worry about them while they are in the zone as well.

So why do you want to prevent them leaving? You're arguing in circles here.

 

[Nadreck]

"No dumb b****** ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor b****** die for his country".

- General George S. Patton

Well, I've recently made some Nova Imperium pilots die for theirs, and I'll keep running away for the repairs and ammo that will let me do it for awhile longer, thanks.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

So why do you want to prevent them leaving? You're arguing in circles here.

No im not this is straight forward.

On the other hand, you didnt know why minions or NPC's were needed in other games to be farmed or captured.

So im really not expecting you to understand this either.